Session Start: Sun Mar 07 00:10:21 1999
*** Now talking in #wrow
*** Topic is 'The Dave Lucas Show: An Evening with Lawrence Schiller, author of "Perfect Murder , Perfect Town: JonBenet And The City Of Boulder", Chuck Green, reporter for The Denver Post, and  Stan Oliner, Curator of Books and Manuscripts for the Colorado Historical Society'
*** Set by matthews on Sat Mar 06 16:43:17
<lflowers> hi, BJ
<Pati> hi BJ
<AuntieBJ> Hi guys
<ib_nora> Hi BJ
<LDBug> he must not smoke
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<LDBug> and...has all his teeth :)
<ib_nora> Hi BayBB
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<lflowers> evening
<BayBB> Hi All
<ib_nora> Hi Starling
<Pati> hi bay, and star
<Starling> Hi:-)
<LDBug> Hi everyone
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<jameson> It is definitely the best book so far.
<Scout> Before he gets going Has anyone heard him mention that he has revealed about only 10% of the information
<jameson> I think it had to be hard to have a deadline and the case still so active
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<Scout> of the ivnestigation in the book?
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<ib_nora> No, not heard only 10%
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<lflowers> evening Maxi;vole
<Starling> Hi girls
<jameson> That is reported as something he said on MSNBC - I don't get that channel
<maxi> hello, lisa and everyone.
<Scout> I think it was on Barnes & Noble chat with him
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<jameson> Well, he is crediting Charlie - good
<vole> hi all
<ourputer> Perhaps Lisa could have Lance ask him that
<ib_nora> Hi Vole
<Pati> he mentioned it in the Barnes and Noble "chat" 10%
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<lflowers> Hi,Tex
<Scout> I thought I read it on the net
<AK> Hi, all!
<lflowers> Hi
<maxi> My mother is very impressed that Schiller is an old cameraman.
<ib_nora> well, 10% is just the tip of the iceberg
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<LDBug> maybe in transcrips Scout?
<Pati> yes scout, the Barnes and Noble chat last week
<AK> Lisa, could you ask his views of why the BPD is in Atlanta? Thanks.
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<Scout> Then 10% info is correct. I try to not to get confussed thanks
<Texas1> Hi Lisa
<lflowers> Hi,Geno
<Geno> hullo
<Starling> Hi Geno
<maxi> Lisa, would you please remind Lance to ask Schiller if he has any idea what caused the prominent red  triangular abrasion on JonBenet's throat?
<maxi> Sorry, I'm obsessed.
<LDBug> good maxi
<lflowers> yes...as a matter of fact, he already has that question typed up and on the list he's currently reading from
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<Scout> Maxi Who isn't?
<Texas1> Lisa........would you also ask Lance to ask about the email and Burke?
<lflowers> it should be up shortly
<Geno> hey, Liz
<lizzie> hi everybody
<Starling> Hi Liz
<maxi> Bless his heart, Lisa!
<ib_nora> Hi Liz
<lflowers> :)
<Pati> and why he "forgot" to ask about the "red heart" drawn on her hand"?
<Pati> hi liz
<LDBug> was about the heart on her hand in the book?
<lflowers> yes, Texas
<AK> LS sez cops cite midnite-2am window for scream. Globe broke that story. Stanton said "just after midnite."
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<maxi> hi, fra
<Starling> So 2:00 a.m is incorrect?
<AK> Why is LS listening to cops who might wish to mess up the timeline? Guy who saw lites corrorbs Stanton.
<Fra> Oh, why the heck not be in this chat room, I say.
<Starling> Hi Fra
<ib_nora> Hi Fra
<jameson> Schiller is a very good speaker
<lflowers> I'm making a studio run ...any more questions?
<maxi> Schiller sounds very relaxed and friendly tonight.
<LDBug> yes   the newspaper with the heart around JR and X for others  Iflowers
<dbarc> lisa:  the Den = the Studio, right?
<dbarc> referring to the floor plans in the back of the book
<Pati> hey fra...didn't see you enter LOL
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<maxi> hi mrsrick
<Starling> Hi Mrs. Rick
<lizzie> hi fra and mrsrick
<AK> Good, db. Where WAS PR when she "saw" JB running down street: in solarium or back den?
<mrsrick> hi everyone
<Pati> hi mrsrick
<mrsrick> hello pati
<Fra> Hi Maxi and Starling and Nora and Lizzie and Pati and all the rest of you.
<jameson> Police gave him 1800 pages!!!
<jameson> damn!
<maxi> Gave him! Is that legal?
<lflowers> back
<LDBug> why give him???
<Starling> No way.
<Pati> geez that dosen't sound very legal to me.....police "giving" him the papers...very stupid
<jameson> But I know there are those documents out there.. we all know that...
<maxi> Ooo, what a shot at Wecht "In his day"
<jameson> I just didn't realize so MUCH
<dbarc> Q for anybody -- what has John Douglas said lately?
<Starling> His book is only 600+ pages.  I'm wondering what was left out.
<LDBug> Not surprising jameson that you wouldn't ...you work too hard
<Pati> 90% star LOL
<Starling> :-)
<jameson> lots - He didn't mention Darnay Hoffman or any number of other things
<Texas1> Jameson....With all that Schiller has, he seems not to target the Ramseys...
<LDBug> he 'had' the housekeeper too
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<jameson> he doesn't name the Ramseys, no - he seems to feel that the investigation needs to continue
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<lflowers> I admire the quality of Schiller's writing and think his book, as a whole, a sucessful endeavor, but it's riddled with errors
<Texas1> Jameson....Schiller is the best thing that happened to this case
<jameson> he acknowldges the intruder evidence
<Pati> has anyone counted the errors in the book yet?
<lflowers> ranging from the petty to the looming
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<jameson> There are errors, to be sure
<maxi> It's odd that his staff didn't pick up those errors.  Some are simple.
<lflowers> I did notice he gave Peter Boyles credit for a well known comment of Hoffman's
<jameson> what was that, Lisa
<lflowers> and almost everything he wrote about JT was untrue, or embellished
<lflowers> the white Bronco chase analogy
<maxi> And he had a cop looking at pics of a dead child who wasn't killed.
<jameson> yep
<jameson> and getting sick over it
<maxi> That's beyond error into fantasy.
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<maxi> That sort of error makes me wonder about some of his descriptions of who did what when.
<Pati> why he felt the need to "embelish" is beyond me...but authors tend to do that
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<jameson> I wondered about that - Eustace was being looked at for other crimes from the West - maybe they were looking at those photos...
<LDBug> .
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<dbarc> Who
<dbarc> Who's talking (sorry)
<jameson> a pedophile who was officially cleared in the Ramsey case
<Pati> Lance
<lflowers> Stan
<lflowers> Oliner
<maxi> Eustace = pedophile  Oliner = archivist
<lflowers> hi,Destiny:)
<lflowers> how goes it?
<lflowers> does Schiller mention Steve Miles?
<lflowers> in his book? I haven't noticed that he does
<lizzie> no he doesn't
<jameson> I don't recall Miles/Hill in the book - could be wrong - there was a lot there
<BayBB> I believe he said he didn't
<maxi> Stan Oliner
<lflowers> good question
<lflowers> interesting tactic
<Starling> But he doesnt understand I don't think how people are to reference back to it.
<Pati> He's just trying to justify the lack of an index....
<Starling> Are we supposed to memorize it.Lol
<Pati> and getting a bit "testy" LOL
<LDBug> sell the index later ?
<lflowers> yes
<dbarc> lousy answer (from LS) -- let's start a PMPT index project.
<Scout> I'm buying the index
<lflowers> "index sold separately"
<jameson> No - index in 5th edition
<jameson> hopefully all the corrections will be there
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<lflowers> hi,Snow!
<Starling> Hi snow
<maxi> hi snow
<Pati> hi snow
<snowwolf> Hi, everyone(:
<AuntieBJ> Hi snow
<lizzie> hi snow
<Geno> Hi Snow :-)
<BayBB> Hi Snow
<person> HI snow  (ruth here)
<Pati> is that you r?
<person> yes
<snowwolf> did I miss anything real good?
<BayBB> Me, Snow
<snowwolf> on the phone, baybb??
<LDBug> all you missed is good
<lflowers> brb...going for another installment of coffee
<ib_nora> Its very interesting so far, Snow.
<BayBB> LOL No Snow, YOU missed me, didn't you?
<dbarc> (off subject) anybody read "Silent Coup" re Nixon/Watergate?
<snowwolf> I always miss you, baybb(:
<ib_nora> Schiller being very chatty and historian guy is very well versed.
<snowwolf> i didn't, dbarc
<lflowers> back
<Pati> chatty but not much real information
<snowwolf> all right, where is my coffee?(:
<Pati> snow, it's over at fb LOL
<Geno> :-) Pati
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<dbarc> lisa, are they having a good time in the studio?
<snowwolf> hi, kaethe
<LDBug> columbia snow go get it
<lflowers> it sounded like Lance said,"communist for the Denver Post"
<Kaethe> Hi guys!
<lflowers> hi,Kaethe
<maxi> hi kaethe.
<lflowers> dbarc: ah,yes..they're having a balst
<Kaethe> nice to see a crowded room
<lizzie> hi kaethe
<lflowers> that's blast
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<snowwolf> LB, I would rather have German Chocolate Cake coffee(:
<maxi> hi DrTee
<snowwolf> Hi, Dr.Tee(:
<DrTee> Evening
<LDBug> got a recipe for 112 cookies
<jameson> Green is right - the others were quickie books
<Pati> sounds good snow?
<LDBug> want it?
<BayBB> Hi Dr Tee
<Kaethe> DrTee (bow)
<LDBug> snow  u need the cookie recipe to take a texas business down
<jameson> Green says intruder theories - he is not accepting that Smit knows what EVIDENCE is
<snowwolf> ahhh, the neiman marcus cookie recipe?
<LDBug> yes
<maxi> he's right, jams.  A negative isn't evidence.
<DrTee> Lisa, Are you taking questions?
<lflowers> yep
<LDBug> want it or you got it?
<Pati> maxi :-)
<snowwolf> I would like it, please - I lost it(:
<LDBug> k
<snowwolf> thanks(:
<DrTee> Schiller says that the 911 call on the 23rd is not relevant.   I'd like to hear more on that, since I find it beyond coincidence
<jameson> Smit says there is evidence - he wasn't saying a negative
<jameson> not on neck- on back and leg
<lflowers> got it,Dr.T...brb
<person> I agree DrTee
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<maxi> hi, Ed
<snowwolf> I agree also, drtee
<snowwolf> hi, ed(:
<maxi> Yes!
<EdM> hi everyone
<DrTee> Snowwolf, how's the tiara?  I wear mine at work sometimes
<LDBug> maxi !!!
<snowwolf> lol, Kassidy always makes me wear mine - I drew the line at the grocery store(:
<lflowers> back
<maxi> No, Schiller, that's a tourniquet.
<LDBug> really DrTee I wear mine on holloween
<DrTee> I have to feel special more than once a year
<maxi> Garotting is when you put the cord in front of the neck and then pull both ends.
<maxi> Hey, he still didn't answer about that abrasion!  Darn him!
<LDBug> I wear mine with a pumkin suit
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<Starling> But in that sense it IS releveant.
<maxi> He did that same thing on the Barnes & Noble Q & A.
<snowwolf> hi, annette(:
<maxi> hi annette
<DrTee> Again, he's not talking about the 911 call, another topic
<Starling> The more insight - the better.
<Geno> Lisa, see if there's a problem with this IP that's being k-lined now?...and get a chatter allowed in?   yoohoo@203.57.129.47
<lflowers> he's skillful at evading questions
<annette> Hi everyone
<mrsrick> hello annette
<Pati> and the e-mail...and Burke
<snowwolf> my stepson was really bad about hiding when he was that age.
<Pati> boy he sure dodged that question regarding the possible e-mail...sly fox isn't he
<LDBug> geeez is that new info?
<lflowers> someone is palying the paino in the background
<lflowers> I mean,Piano...
<lflowers> do yall hear it?
<snowwolf> i hear it
<dbarc> no
<DrTee> pain-o is right
<Starling> yes
<Pati> felony death by child abuse...that's interesting
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<DrTee> I've been out all week (unexpected eye surgery), what's the deal with the e-mail?
<Fra> C U, way late here.
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<snowwolf> are you doing ok, drtee?
<mrsrick> nite all
<lflowers> nite
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<snowwolf> nite, mrsrick(:
<maxi> night, mrs. r
<DrTee> Yep, had my cornea scraped--ouch
<jameson> Tabloid says Burke sent an e-mail late that night - 
<Pati> night mrsrick
<Starling> There is a tab story that says an email was sent from one of the computers in the house the night of the murder.
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<Pati> hi frankg
<DrTee> Thanks, Jameson
<snowwolf> hi, frankg
<Starling> Burke is taking the heat for it.
<Starling> Hi Frank
<lizzie> hi frankg
<Geno> Hi Frank
<frankg> Good morning!
<maxi> hi frank
<Pati> felony death by child abuse, less than a murder charge, is it me or is there something wrong with that "concept"?
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<snowwolf> hi, JR
<Geno> how 'bout them Huskies?  Frank
<lflowers> Hi,Mr.Ramsey
<JR> Hi
<snowwolf> i agree with you, pati
<jameson> Lisa, IM me
<LDBug> Love that Gold
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<Scout> Does anyone know when investigators are to leave Atlanta?
<lflowers> no
<jameson> Tomorrow morning
<ib_nora> paper said tomorrow
<Scout> thanks
<jameson> There is only one flight from Atlanta to Denver
<dbarc> (commercial) Clinton let Joyclyn Elders go because she was soft on masterbation.
<jameson> joke
<lflowers> lol
<JR> Green says, no intruder, but Smit, Ainsworth, and Demuth say the parents did not do it.  I wonder if Green thinks he is better informed than those three?
<Kaethe> So what's your take on why the Denver folks are there, jameson?
<jameson> I think the gj wants more information, maybe the GBI is giving a report from what THEY have learned in the past months
<jameson> could be a lot of things
<frankg> Did the time of the scream ever get resolved? (12 midnight or 2 am?  Schiller says 2 am in book)
<maxi> Could the GBI have been interviewing people the BPD didn't?
<jameson> no
<EdM> what is an internet personality??
<Geno> heh heh
<Kaethe> Don't get why they are ALL there!!! ????
<lflowers> a clever description
<jameson> I don't think so but they might have been investigating things and interviewing peripherial characters
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<Starling> :-)
<snowwolf> hi, AK(:
<maxi> Jams, maybe I should ask you what caused that damn abrasion.
<ib_nora> Hi AK
<EdM> i am serious, who is lance matthews?
<AK> I got dumped! Back now. :)
<jameson> lance is a poster
<Pati> and were there really suspicious cars outside the Ramsey's house in Atlanta?
<lflowers> ah..here we go
<Pati> LOL maxi
<lflowers> the fun begins
<maxi> Bothered by us?!
<dbarc> what is a poster? (from dbarc, private)
<LDBug> who is this?
<maxi> jameson is an internet personality.
<Geno> heh heh
<lflowers> a poster is a participant in the  arena of the "internet subculture"...
<Pati> :-) geno
<Kaethe> just a fellow homeschooler, huh jameson...
<lflowers> one who frequents discussion forums and chatrooms
<dbarc> tnx
<LDBug> I dunno I think the name Jameson is everywhere
<jameson> who else homeschools??
<maxi> me
<Kaethe> me
<LDBug> celebrity
<jameson> :)
<Kaethe> :o)
<Geno> here you go, BJ....send ole Tom your URL  
<snowwolf> I used to homeschool
<AuntieBJ> I will GEno
<Pati> gag
<maxi> I did one kid each way.
<lflowers> public school is a debilitating experience, imo
<maxi> private, public, home
<lflowers> homeschooling is probably the most effective means of educating children
<lflowers> imvho
<Kaethe> I need that matra some days...
<AK> Lisa, can you ask LS and CG why the BPD are in Atlanta?
<lflowers> sure
<lflowers> brb
<Pati> I guess Schiller doesn't want to answer any "real" questions
<Starling> I saw ?Jerry Brown?  Ex Gov of California on a show promoting home schooling.
<jameson> Homeschooling is more interesting and relaxing than dealing with the public schools
<BayBB> Gov. Moonbeam?
<lflowers> don't count on a comprehensive answer, though
<AK> Brown's Mayor of Oakland now. Poor public schools there, but he should work to make them better.
<Kaethe> dig schiller about the info he COULDN'T put in the book...would it really turn this case around?
<Pati> he want to sell more books LOL
<Starling> Brown was pushing his book that night.
<maxi> I send my husband out to teach in the public schools each morning.  I've done my part - they don't get my kid.
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<lflowers> back
<snowwolf> what grade does he teach, maxi?
<maxi> Montessori 3 to six year olds in public school
<Kaethe> I want this case SOLVED!
<maxi> There's your question, AK
<AuntieBJ> Did somebody get Stan Oliner's URL?
<jameson> I think they are down there to get a report from the GBI
<AK> My sound's not working, please tell me how he answered! :)
<Geno> his e-mail is: sloiner@yahoo.com
<maxi> Was that Schiller saying he agreed?
<AuntieBJ> Thanks Geno
<Kaethe> I like their answer better than yours, jameson ;o)
<lflowers> he believes they're doing simultaneous interviews
<AK> Thanks, Lisa. You two are a great team.
<jameson> If they were interviewing the Ramseys, the Ramsey lawyers would be there
<lflowers> muchas gracias:)
<jameson> so maybe interviewing someone else?  OK
<AK> Brennan said DNA from someone new. Could that be right??
<Scout> Like his second answer best....
<jameson> I didn't hear before that John's brother gave any - just a thought
<AK> You might be right about that one, Jams.
<Pati> oh....geee maybe they just want to dot the i's and cross the t's LOL...
<Kaethe> You don't need FOUR detectives to collect a DNA sample, do you?
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<LDBug> maybe maybe maybe they like to travel
<maxi> I don't understand why not call anyone they want to interview before the grand jury.
<jameson> nope - and you don't need the GBI to conduct an interview
<lflowers> how far are you from Saratoga Springs,dbarc?
<lflowers> we used to drive up from Boulder periodically
<Pati> maybe they want to get information from a detective who has experience dealing with a high profile case with wealthy suspects?
<AK> Are the BPD still skedded to return tomorrow?
<jameson> Yet another?  They have plenty in Colorado, don't they?
<Kaethe> What was the former experience with "wealthy suspects"?
<dbarc> Saratoga is about 125 mi W.
<jameson> I wonder what happened to that new PI they said was going to be checking out the case - remember?  Bill Dear or something?
<lflowers> we used to go camping there on occasion
<LDBug> depends on how many ' wealthy ' children were missing / murdered
<maxi> Who said, jameson?
<dbarc> snowy range -- nice
<lflowers> yes
<Pati> they are supposedly talking to a John Lang, who is a profiler and has experience with a case of a wealthy many contracting a murder...
<AK> Lisa, CO law doesn't allow GJurors to speak afterward. That law may be challeneged. Does CG think it will?
<jameson> They had Smit, the CBI - you don't think there are any wealthy people in Colorado who have been involved in crime?
<maxi> I think Lang's expertise is in interrogation, tho.
<maxi> Who is Whitman?  I forget.
<jameson> Brennan said that Lang was not being used as a profiler
<Geno> Tom Wickman, Maxi
<Kaethe> Yes, but were any of them as "nice" as the Ramseys (grin).
<maxi> Oh, duh.  Thanks, geno.
<lflowers> got your question,AK
<lflowers> brb
<Pati> poor JonBenet's toileting problems....very strange...a girl her age with so many problems like that.
<AK> Bless you, Lance!
<lflowers> back
<dbarc> good job
<AK> CANNOT speak, a la Laurion's comments last week!!!
<Kaethe> I don't imagine there's much chance of cameras in the courtroom?
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<maxi> Wouldn't you love to see this on CourtTV
<lflowers> hi,ttt
<Kaethe> fat chance
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<AK> Oy, they're wrong!
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<jameson> Jonbenét did NOT wear pullups during the day and the school people, pageant people, friends, no one has said it was a problem.  She was a bedwetter.  I don't think that is a big deal
<Kaethe> Enough is enough AFTER we buy his book, right!!!
<jameson> I will buy the 5th edition with the index and corrections though
<Pati> well if it's true that she couldn't even wipe herself, that's a problem....
<AK> The corrections will take a separate volume.
<lflowers> frankly, it's difficult for me to see Schiller's book as any kind of "revelation" because it's so overwhelmingly riddled with errors
<LDBug> Pati kids will be kids
<LDBug> they never get it right
<Pati> but at 6 years old...i'ts not normal
<snowwolf> i agree, lisa
<AK> There's ONE scoop in it: JR calling the pilot for the flight.
* laura six is still very young
<lflowers> yes...that doesn't look good
<maxi> Schiller is being disingenuous now.
<lflowers> yes
<jameson> People who talked to him thought this case would be over - 
<LDBug> didn't JR have to cancel?
<maxi> He'd have to know being a source would put some people's jobs in jeapordy
<Kaethe> such a noble man with such a noble cause...gag...
<Pati> most kids are completely trained by three or four...six is stretching it quite a bit
<dbarc> lflo, Can you post (somewhere) what you think are errors?  I saw two typos only.
<AK> Mason put the kibosh on JR's plan to fly off later that night.
<LDBug> Pati check the parent pages /forum pathfinder
<LDBug> medical also
<LDBug> no big deal
<lflowers> I haven't finished the book yet
<lflowers> but I've already found an abundance of mistakes
<LDBug> Iflowers I read 11 pages at mining company
<jameson> Schiller never hid the publishing date
<Pati> I'll do that, but I'm using my common sense as a parent of a girl...who trained herself with no problem, and wouldn't dream of asking an adult, even her parents to wipe her behind
<AK> Lisa: He used the "normal" pix of JB on cover. Why not include one where she was in pageant getup? That's the JB that matters.
<jameson> That is the JB that matters??
<dbarc> Good question, CG.
<jameson> good question
<LDBug> YOu mean the tiara??? lots of pple wear them even today
<Geno> Chuck's good,...he's a pro.
<lflowers> Schiller is perhaps the only person to date to use a picture of an unadorned JonBenet
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<AK> Besides the Rams "Wanted Poster"
<lflowers> that doesn't count
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<lflowers> :)
<AK> Exactly, :)
<AK> The normal pix is purposefully misleading
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<LDBug> AK  how did she go to school?
<AK> He got it from the Rs; that implies possibly even more complicity throughout.
<dbarc> (normal pix) I disagree -- it honors her.
<LDBug> dance costumes
<Kaethe> ASK SCHILLER:  Can he tell us about the letter from Shreveport the police were looking into early on?
<LDBug> ???
<Starling> That's a good question.
<AK> Not sure what you mean, LDBug re: school
<LDBug> the little girl AK
<JR> Lance:  Ask Schiller why he thinks Fleet White would resist appearing before the Grand Jury, charged with perjury,  or implicated in the killing?
<lflowers> got it,Kaethe...brb
<LDBug> remember she was a little girl
<AuntieBJ> Good question Kaethe...Lisa ask Lance to ask that question about Shreveport
<maxi> I missed that -- what was he asked to leave out about the DNA?
<dbarc> net congestion -- dropout for everybody?
<AK> WE know she was a little girl; her parents didn't seem to.
<LDBug> not yet dbarc
<annette> AFK
<LDBug> AK I disagree
<AK> What does AFK mean?
<lizzie> ask Schiller if he heard anything about John Ramsey drinking vodka after his excursion to the basement before 10 a.m.
<Geno> Away From Keyboard
<BayBB> Away from computer
<laura> pkw
<AK> Thanks, Geno
<lflowers> back
<snowwolf> i'm going to drink vodka if my computer doesn't quit acting up(:
<jameson> high-risk perpsare out there
<lflowers> Lance should be asking your questions shortly
<Starling> Another good question, Liz.
<jameson> Good show, Lisa
<Geno> Liz always has good ones, Starling   :-)
<maxi> Yoo hoo!  Did anyone hear what the police asked Schiller not to put in book re DNA?
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<LDBug> sure Jameson check Kettering yet?
<Starling> She does:-)
<Geno> just something about a "3rd Part", Maxi ...is all I caught there.
<maxi> Hey, there's a sop for lake -- a possible extra overnight guest.
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<LDBug> or Columbus
<lizzie> you guys!
<jameson> kettering?  no
<LDBug> Erica?
<Starling> Kettering is where Erica was from.
<jameson> no, 
<LDBug> yes ..check MC   WS
<jameson> ok
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<Kaethe> thanks schiller, geez.
<AK> So the BPD will pay our credit card expenses too?
<jameson> LOL - I read his book and wrote notes in all the margins and listed pages where names showed up
<Kaethe> AK, lol
<maxi> That's exactly what I did, jams.
<JR> Lance: Ask Schiller why the experts cannot connect a 377 word ransom note to the writer if they gave the writers sample.
<AK> It's possible she spontaneously combusted too, but Lance's ? rules
<lflowers> Schiller has left several key figures in this investigation out of his book...Hoffman, for example..and their absence is conspicuous
<lflowers> test
<LDBug> test
<dbarc> Q What is a possible scenario with both the ransom note and a non-family perp?
<AK> Why does LS claim the BPD said scream was BETWEEN 12-2; Stanton and lights guy say "just after midnite"
<jameson> I wonder if he asked Darnay if he wanted to be included
<dbarc> (scenario) or give me a URL.
<lflowers> I'm lagging
<LDBug> jameson can
<jameson> I think the ransom note was written by the killer while he was waiting for the family to get home and go to bed.  he had to sit still and be quiet - I think he was just "killing time" with a fantasy note
<AK> Jams are you drinking vodka or water?
<dbarc> got it
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<lflowers> yes
<Geno> heh heh
<snowwolf> wb, pati(:
<ib_nora> zzzzzzzzzzzz - jams.   :-)
<jameson> Right - Boyles was full of it with his great "important" LA letter.
<pati> geez, got disconnected gd AOHell
<lflowers> Darnay was originally to come on, But Schiller had a chit fit
<Kaethe> Good info, Lisa!!!
<jameson> No one wants to be part of a confrontation..
<Starling> Why would he care if Darnay came on?
<jameson> I can understand that
<maxi> I gather Schiller doesn't like Darnay, then?
<pati> I tought he'd stay longer....
<dbarc> Peter Boyles is an Art Bell wanabee.
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<Starling> Good debate is healthy.
<dbarc> lflowers can't quit!
<Kaethe> The internet and the radio are big enough for everybody...
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<Geno> question from the ethernet:  "Did the policeman who checked the basement for a point of entry notice the open (or broken) window that Fleet saw, and that John claimed he closed when he went to the basement?  Did the policeman make note of that open window?
<pati> LOL star...Schiller does get rather defensive when confronted
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<maxi> I wonder if Schiller was asked to hold back info about what else JR was doing in the basement by pro or anit rams?
<Geno> comment from the ethernet:  JR was probably drinking the vodka like it was water. Hence the confusion.
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<snowwolf> LOL
<snowwolf> hi, scarecrow(:
<Starling> Lol
<LDBug> now we need pumpkin costumes and tiaras
<AK> Stopped her dead? Does this guy have an alibi?
<scarecrow> hi everyone
<pati> Schiller is such a hypocrite
<AK> For Chuck Green: What's Larry Mason doing now?
<Kaethe> hey scarecrow
<scarecrow> any new information tonight?
<LDBug> same old same old
<scarecrow> who framed Patsy?
<maxi> I'm gonna sign out.  Night all.
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<pati> jameson, your so famous now
<LDBug> Celebrity   is the word jameson
<LDBug> your name has been written more times on the web than anyone
<Geno> heh hhe
<Kaethe> "Celebrity" thy name is jameson ;o)
<LDBug> famous
<scarecrow> notorious
<pati> infamous
<LDBug> hard working too
<Kaethe> blinders
<scarecrow> biased
<LDBug> read for yourself
<pati> aw gee he dosen't agree with you jameson
<jameson> no, I can't convert him
<LDBug> are you concerned jameson?
<jameson> no
<Geno> right,...Chuck   that's what Tom's question addressed
<scarecrow> jameson, the pest made it
<LDBug> hah ah a   I knew it
<EdM> i don't think anyone can convert anyone, just think, jameson, can anyone convert you??
<jameson> nope
<jameson> not without evidence
<pati> stailmate
<pati> stalemate LOL
<LDBug> that seems to be where we are
<jameson> http://members.tripod.com/~jamesonTimeLine
<jameson> :)
<Kaethe> I'm hoping to see Patsy on the witness stand; I think it will help me decide.
<scarecrow> the timeline is a great source of information
<jameson> HI SCARECROW!!!
<pati> Jameson, how much did you pay for this commercial LOL
<scarecrow> hey, do you have any idea who this is?
<LDBug> Celebrity status
<LDBug> !!!
<jameson> He posts URLS on every show - 
<jameson> Yes JC
<LDBug> did mine
<pati> why do I feel like throwing up LOL
<scarecrow> wow, I've been Identified!
<Destiny> splat
<LDBug> too much to drink?
<jameson> There is only one"pest'
<Destiny> not enough
<LDBug> drink more
<LDBug> electrolytes are good for all of us
<scarecrow> I have a new theory, that makes # 213
<jameson> Glad you could make it - even if you are as hard-headed as Lance.  :)
<scarecrow> I like playing the devil's advocate
<LDBug> #213 for you scarecrow?
<jameson> You are the devil's advocate - that makes me an angel???  *grin*
<scarecrow> yes, I haven't examined anyone else's theories yet
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<LDBug> hi phantom
<jameson> Scarecrow has MANY things to fight with me about - 
<Kaethe> phantom...ooooo.....
<jameson> Hi phantom
<phantom> Hi LD
<scarecrow> someone has to keep you honest, dearie
<Geno> Hi Pee2
<phantom> Hi jams
<phantom> Hi genoo
<phantom> Did I miss much?
<AK> Where's G2?
<jameson> Schiller just left - talked for 2 hours
<scarecrow> what was that about wiaving extradiction?
<phantom> He wrote PMPT?
<LDBug> what is PMPT?
<scarecrow> waiving extradition
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<jameson> The Ramseys wouldn't have to be dragged in IMO
<LDBug> dont answer
<scarecrow> Jameson, did you learn anything tonight?
<jameson> yes, he wrote PMPT
<phantom> I can't ever remember who does what.
<jameson> Yes, but I won't say what - hehehe
<phantom> Perfect Murder Perfect Town.
<LDBug> a phantom dont need to
<pati> scarecrow, jameson doesn't have to learn anything jameson knows everything LOL
<phantom> Ok, I'll accept that logic LD!
<LDBug> ask pati
<scarecrow> Jameson has a one-track mind!
<LDBug> follow the tracks and get one
<LDBug> fre
<jameson> I enjoyed listening to Schiller  and Green
<LDBug> FREE I mean
<phantom> I wonder what's going on in Georgia.
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<scarecrow> It's beginning to look more like an intruder all the time.
<phantom> Really? Why?
<pati> phantom, ask Jameson, she knows it all
<jameson> yes, Scarecrow
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<LDBug> dont know  half dozen + more guesses phantom
<jameson> are you listening to the show Scarecrow?
<BayBB> Yes it is, Scarecrow, if you are talking about who didn't do it
<scarecrow> yes, snow snow and some pretty bad conditions
<snowwolf> hi, phantom(:
<jameson> Thanks for the compliment Pati but I don't think I know it all
<pati> LOL....sure ya do...
<Destiny> lol
<phantom> Hi Snow,BRB, sound went out.
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<scarecrow> BayBB, why do you say that?
<jameson> Tom from CA
<BayBB> Same reason you say what you said.  It's what I think]
<AK> Where does Tom post?
<scarecrow> Where's your evidence?
<Kaethe> and such a neat and tidey intruder -- a stealth murdering maniac...who loves to write but forgot his pen and pad...
<scarecrow> It's a frame-up, silly
<BayBB> MY, evidence?    I didn't do anything
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<Geno> heh heh, BayBB
<pati> Kaethe..LOL and has plenty of time
<snowwolf> wb, phantom(:
<phantom> Back.(Oops, had the speakers down low.)
<scarecrow> don't  you need evidence to base a theory on?
<phantom> hey snow.
<BayBB> I don't have a theory.    The police do
<scarecrow> I thought you said it was what you thought?
<flybynite> Jameson:  What do you think of Green's work?  He seems to be getting keen on you
<phantom> intruder intruderintruder
<BayBB> But they haven't told me yet, maybe tomorrow
<jameson> some posters don't feel they have to have evidence
<AuntieBJ> that is not true
<pati> that's so true Jameson....and you should know that
<scarecrow> hey, Jameson, do chatters actually discuss their theories here?
<jameson> I don't agree with Green and his relationship with Boyles makes me like him less
<Starling> I think there are various aspects of the evidence which trouble all of us.
<BayBB> I know the sun will come up tomorrow also, but I don't have a theory as to why it will
<scarecrow> Let's assume it's someone who hates John
<LDBug> heck we dont even know why they are in GA
<Kaethe> my theory...if it quacks like a duck...
<jameson> Here?  Not as much as on the forums - message boards.
<Starling> Schiller said only 10% of the real evidence is out there for the public.
<scarecrow> Let's postulate that he decides to kill John's daughter and frame Patsy
<jameson> This goes too fast and we are listening to the radio show - too hard to concentrate
<Geno> it would be amazing to me if a poster is found who actually is in possession of any evidence...but theories, opinions, etc. aren't prohibited by the lack of same.
<phantom> could be someone who hates, but I sometimes think it might be someone who just
<scarecrow> His plan seems to be working pretty well so far
<phantom> found a good target.
<LDBug> apparently one or more in your area phantom ...ongoing now
<scarecrow> Geno: are you saying that there is no evidence available in the public record?
<jameson> who is that on now??
<Kaethe> oooo...a good questioner...
<Geno> <Geno> it would be amazing to me if a poster is found who actually is in possession of any evidence...but theories, opinions, etc. aren't prohibited by the lack of same.
<phantom> I don't think the note frames Patricia.
<scarecrow> Who does it frame?:
<dbarc> members.tripod.com is really irritating (popping windows) but
<dbarc> but you have a good site, jams.  thanks.
<jameson> LOL- that photo was on-line for FOREVER
<jameson> thanks dbarc
<phantom> nody really. Just a trump note.
<phantom> nobody
<phantom> to fool and create a big shot murderer.
<scarecrow> Why is Patsy such a strong suspect if not on the basis of the ransom note?
<LDBug> the media
<pati> wanted to show JonBenet looking normal instead of a tarted up hooker
<phantom> 3 of 10, I don't think proves anything.
<AuntieBJ> dbarc..that is why I don't use Tripod
<jameson> she is based on the basis of the ransom note - but because of people like Hoffman and Foster
<scarecrow> Try the Boulder PD.
<scarecrow> The Boulder PD has been influenced by Hoffman and Foster???
<LDBug> they are tried out
<jameson> Hoffman's people didn't have the actual note or her handwriting for sure.  Foster... well....
<scarecrow> the Boulder focussed on the Ramseys before Hoffman and Foster appeared on the scene.
<scarecrow> PD that is
<jameson> yes, they did
<jameson> and couldn't make the case
<scarecrow> they've been focussing on the Ramseys all this time
<phantom> I bet the other %90 evidence is from someone's opinion  that it might be evidence.
<jameson> Lance's favorite photo - I hope he tells about them - 
<scarecrow> And haven't made the case
<LDBug> I like the little one in white dress with hearts and on the porch
<pati> I agree with him on the pagent stuff and her tarted up outfits
<scarecrow> well, it's one thing to discuss the case dispassionately and another to engage in ad hominem
<jameson> I liked some of the photos in McLean's book
<LDBug> pati thats what they were able to abscound
<dbarc> Thanks for the info, Mrs. Brady.  Goodnight all.
<pati> abscound?
<pati> night dbarc
<phantom> night dbarc
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<Kaethe> Speaking of CREAPY ---- I saw a g-string pantie made for "size 5 to 10 years" on sale on ebay!  Hope someone tracks down those bidders!!!!
<pati> yech....
<snowwolf> that's disgusting!!!!
<scarecrow> when I compared the note to Patsy's handwriting I saw hardly any similarities!
<jameson> I saw many differences.
<jameson> The experts who did the comparison officially can't make the match and they had a LOT of her samples and the REALnote
<phantom> They should get profilers  that look for a murderer, not just to come to decide that it's the Ramseys.
<scarecrow> It's the S.B.T.C., the "good southern common sense", the "and hence", etc. that are incriminating and could easily have been included in the note by someone with enmity toward the Ramseys to cast suspicion on them
<Kaethe> It's not JUST the handwriting that says PATSY to me, but the phraseology.  But that's me...
<jameson> right - open the investigation and investigate all leads - and if anything comes up that points to the Ramseys, look at that too
<phantom> Or poking fun at the Ramseys too?
<pati> who is this talking, he sounds very familiar
<scarecrow> Why would Patsy, a well-educated, intelligent woman, make such stupid mistakes?
<jameson> Chuck Green
<scarecrow> I try to keep an open mind, if you don't believe me, ask Jameson.
<phantom> Why would she kill her at all.
<pati> no the person who ws asking the question
<Kaethe> jameson, didn't Pam say that she thought someone must have practiced Patsy's handwriting for that note?  Didn't Patsy's MOM think it looked like Patsy?
<jameson> Dan from Alaska.  I don't know who that is
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<scarecrow> Yeah, why would she kill her own daughter, the person she lives through and why if she did kill wouldn't she dispose of the body off the premises, she certainly had plenty of time?
<jameson> They hadn't seen the note - they  were asked what they thought about people saying the writing matched -
<lflowers> wretched technology
<scarecrow> It's the note and the presence of the body in the home that are so damning to the Ramseys.
<Kaethe> Sometimes people destroy the thing they love most...
<jameson> You got it - they were in the house - that is it
<phantom> true scarecrow.
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<jameson> Hi Lake
<Starling> Hi Lake
<lake> Hello Jam
<phantom> Hi Lake
<Kaethe> lake
<scarecrow> Yeah, they destroy the thing they love most and deliberately implicate themselves as participants in the destruction. Makes perfectly good sense to me! hehe
<lake> HI
<LDBug> hey Lake!
<Geno> hey, Lake
<snowwolf> hi, Lake(:
<lake> Hi everybody
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<jameson> You mean you aren't going to do it yourself?  You could be a celebrity!!!  LOL
<phantom> I think because more little children are murdered by someone they know,
<scarecrow> The Ramseys were framed, it's obvious. They are too smart to have been so stupid.
<phantom> and in their own home, that it must be the parents.
<Kaethe> implicate themselves?  Or just implicated.
<jameson> Lisa - have lance ask if he thinks any witnesses have been "tampered with" by media people or authorities...
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<lflowers> k
<pati> scarecrow, fraed by whom?
<scarecrow> Hey, I'm going to start housing my kids at the neighbors so If they're kidnapped I won't be indicted.
<lake> Look, Green, stop whining, Nobody has suffered as much as JBR
<pati> framed by whom? scarecrow
<scarecrow> The assailant obviously.
<pati> and who is that?
<snowwolf> right, lake
<scarecrow> If we knew that he'd have been arrested.
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<Kaethe> Hey, scare, how 'bout the Ramseys are smart enough to do it BUT make it looked like they were framed!
<scarecrow> Part of the reason that the Ramseys and others are suspects is simply that the ARE known!
<pati> so you think it's a he?  Any ideas?
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<pati> so this is a completely unknown person...who murdered JonBenet?
<snowwolf> wb, geno(:
<Gneaux> tanx, Snow :-)
<jameson> no - not completely unknown
<phantom> Are you french no genoo?
<scarecrow> Well, I don't know of many women who would sexually assault a female child with while she lay on her stomach with their right thumb from the rear, do you?
<jameson> Jonbenet was targetted
<Gneaux> c'est la vie, P2
<scarecrow> Least of all mothers.
<jameson> WOW scarecrow - 
<Starling> Thumb?
<lflowers> imo, the Ramseys, either by "accident" or deliberately, murdered their child. Now they feel they should just be left alone to go on with their lives and raise their son
<frankg> Morning Lake...
<jameson> you do jump right in   LOL
<lflowers> but it doesn't work that way
<phantom> bonsoir?
<EdM> Why would anyone want to frame the Ramseys???  If they hate the Ramseys that bad, isn't much easier to kill the Ramseys instead of killing JBR and knowing this case may not be indicted?
<scarecrow> Yeah, if you'll examine the EVIDENCE in the autopsy report you'll come to the same conclusion.
<lake> Did Schiller say anything about the houseguests the night of the murder????
<pati> gee how do you know that information scarecrow?  Right thumb that's pretty specific?
<Gneaux> :-) Pati
<jameson> I don't think they were trying to frame the ramseys
<BayBB> LOL
<Starling> I have studied the autopsy and don't come to that conclusion.
<scarecrow> Yeah, it is specific, and furthermore, it's very likely what happened.
<pati> why not the left thumb?
<jameson> Oh hell Scarecrow - they will turn you in now....  *grin*
<phantom> Someone who would murder a child, would  have his own sick reasons.
<pati> or the right toe or left toe
<Gneaux> possibly, we have someone who enjoys fantasy a bit?  Pati
<scarecrow> It explains the bruising of her right major labium.
<Starling> Lol
<pati> :-) geno
<scarecrow> Are you sure you want to go into this?
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<pati> sure why not
<jameson> go for it Scarecrow - 
<LDBug> no scarecrow
<Geno> apparently you do, Scarecrow    who are we to rob you of the pleasure?
<jameson> But be prepared for an argument
<LDBug> dont do it
<Starling> The bruising on the labia is more consistent with a pinching of the skin - like a blood bruise.
<pati> your the one with the specific information scarecrow and I'm sure everyone is wating with baited breath for your pearls of wisdom
<scarecrow> The blood in  her underpants that didn't match any blood stains in her crotch was apparently deposited while her pants were down and her buttocks and legs were dangling.
<scarecrow> Shall we continue??
<LDBug> please no
<pati> were you there
<BayBB> He cut his thumb om her?
<jameson> Scarecrow has studied a bit and has every right to say what he thinks - but Scarecrow - they will be ugly
<phantom> Why dangling?
<Kaethe> If a child was is sexually attacked as Jonbonet was, I guess some people CAN'T think the parents are involved.  So I guess the Rams did some things "right".:
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<scarecrow> I looked at the EVIDENCE in the autopsy. Are YOU capable of doing that???
<LDBug> please dont
<pati> so you were at the autopsy then
<Geno> sounds a bit like TED, doesn't it?
<Starling> That is an unfair assessment.  
<pati> and you participated in it?
<lflowers> who are you,scarecrow?
<scarecrow> It's easy to form an opinion before studying the EVIDENCE, isn't it!
<lflowers> a certified case expert?
<BayBB> Only if he says the Martians did it Geno
<Geno> heh heh, BayBB
<pati> I am not forming an opinion, you are...your the one stating "facts"
<scarecrow> Why should I identify myself when you are hiding behind a moniker?
<LDBug> you see it's playtime gain
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<pati> LOL so are you
<lflowers> me?
<BayBB> It does sound like Ted.   OMG
<Geno> LOL
<scarecrow> Facts aren't opinions.
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<lflowers> everybody knows who I am...
<scarecrow> Opinions are based on facts.
<Geno> Hi Tara
<pati> I am not stating facts, I am asking questions of someone who proposses they know the facts
<snowwolf> hi, seer
<lflowers> I'm not by any means "hiding behind a monitor"
<scarecrow> It isn't necessary to "know" someone in order to have a conversation with them.
<Geno> heh heh
<Starling> Question for Chuck - Once on Boyles show, awhile back that is - he said there was evidence that still needed to be collected and it needed collected before it disappeard.  What was that all about?
<pati> I have not given an opinion on the case
<scarecrow> Monitor??
<BayBB> FLOL Flowers
<scarecrow> so what's your problem?
<scarecrow> do you have a question?
<jameson> scarecrow  - don't give your information - trust me...
<lflowers> are you speaking to me?
<pati> I did, how do you know the facts?
<LDBug> please do not
<scarecrow> I say study the EVIDENCE  and then form an opinion.
<jameson> you owe them nothing personal - 
<scarecrow> The facts are in the autopsy report. How do YOU know the facts.
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<Starling> Lisa - did you see my question for Chuck?
<lflowers> no
<Starling> Scroll back, please.
<scarecrow> I'm not giving information, I'm giving opinions.
<lflowers> we've been experiencing technical difficulties here at the studio
<Geno> <Starling> Question for Chuck - Once on Boyles show, awhile back that is - he said there was evidence that still needed to be collected and it needed collected before it disappeard.  What was that all about?
<lflowers> and I was unable to access the chatroom for some time
<pati> since I cannot see the evidence except on the internet, which is suspect, I will not form "facts" If I were able to study the evidence in hand...maybe I would...have you personally handled the evidence and seen JonBenet's body in person?
<Starling> Thanks Geno
<scarecrow> So far the only suspect that has been definitely cleared is JonBenet.
<pati> you stated your opiinions as "facts" earlier here
<scarecrow> No, you are trying to be argumentative, pati. You won't get very far that way.
<LDBug> study the 'evidence' !
<jameson> John Andrew and melinda have been cleared - so has Eustace - 
<scarecrow> Study the EVIDENCE.
<pati> saidi it was a "fact" that someone used their "right thumb" to inflict abuse on JonBenet
<phantom> pati-I think sc was just saying what sense everything seemed to make to him.
<jameson> Ah - the Scarecrow I know and love  :)
<phantom> Unless I wrong..........
<phantom> I'm
<scarecrow> I did not say it was a fact. If you can find where I said that, then I'll apologize. What's your theory?
<lflowers> got your questions,Jameson and Geno
<pati> "sigh" I'm getting nowhere with my quesions, I guess scarecrow does not understand what I am asking.....
<scarecrow> Do you understand what you're saying?
<scarecrow> Why not just ask your questions clearly and concisely and I'll try to answer them.
<pati> we have no true facts, they will come out in a trial maybe...we only have the stuff here on the internet, which may be highly suspect.  I am only saying that unless we are true "insiders" we are only speculating on what we might "think" is evidence...
<Kaethe> LISA  -- ASK CHUCK - Does he think there is evidence/information that will be revealed that will ASTOUND people who have followed this case all along??
<lflowers> got it,kaethe
<Starling> Thanks Lisa
<scarecrow> Contentiousness will get you nowhere. If you are really after the truth, you'll have to adopt different  methods to find it.
<lflowers> I didn't mean to be confrontational or rude,scarecrow...
<scarecrow> Jameson: Were John and Patsy on good terms when the slaying occurred?
<pati> well I guess the turth hurts LOL....
<lflowers> but I do want to know (if you are at liberty to tell me)...
<AuntieBJ> Exactly Pati
<lflowers> if you are, in fact, a certified case expert
<Geno> JC could be another "insider", Pati       we have many of those these days...some of them are "obsessed" with their knowledge.
<jameson> yes, no problems in the marriage
<scarecrow> Are they still on good terms?
<jameson> yes
<AuntieBJ> That is true Geno
<pati> LOL geno
<AK> Who's JC?
<jameson> a coronor didn't know to freeze it?/
<AK> I don't mean real name. Is that a poster?
<scarecrow> Geno, you don't further the cause by making snide remarks, you just expose your ignorance.
<Geno> jams called "scarecrow" JC, AK  ... 
<Starling> Just stop it, please scarecrow.
<AK> Thanks, Geno. Missed that.
<pati> Gee I thought I was the one being snide LOL...
<phantom> Witnesses of what?
<jameson> That was just a way to let Scarecrow know I knew who he is - he is a "pest"
<Geno> I have no cause, and I make no claim to either intelligence or ignorance.
<scarecrow> As soon as the snide remarks stop, I'll stop responding to them.
<jameson> not his name, he is not Jesus Christ
<scarecrow> Who's been claiming to be intelligent?????
<Geno> makes no difference to me, jameson   if he is...or isn't.   :-)
<pati> LOL...gee I'm sorry "Lord" I didn't know it was YOU
<Geno> heh heh
<scarecrow> Just swallow your egos and look  at the evidence dispassionately. Jameson I can hardly believe that you spend much time here!
<phantom> Witnesses of the body, I guess.
<jameson> Scarecrow - welcome to the internet...  this group is rough
<pati> gawd, no sense of humor...how sad
<scarecrow> It's one thing to be intellectually rough, it's another to be jerks.
<Geno> agreed, Scarecrow
<LDBug> I dont find anything humorous about the murder of JonBenet
<lake> Well Green, that is the way the BPD handled the Ramseys.  Don't push, and you never will find anything out.
<Geno> nor do I, LDBug
<scarecrow> Attack the ideas, not the one who expresses them, that's only courteous.
<Kaethe> Go Chuck!
<lizzie> oh my, lol
<Geno> :-)
<pati> her murder isn't the least bit funny, but sometimes people do say things that are amusing
<lizzie> then why pretend to be a male?
<scarecrow> Amusement is in the mind of the perceiver.
<lake> Tell the sucker the way it is Jameson.
<Geno> :-) Liz
<phantom> Dumb-dumb- you're not supposed to use your real name on the internet.
<Geno> <jameson> you owe them nothing personal -
<AK> I've got a killer wrapup ? for Chuck. Please, oh, please...
<pati> gee who's gonna get sued now
<Geno> ask it, AK
<AK> I'm on hold!
<Geno> put it here in chat as well, AK
<lflowers> anonymity on the internet, at least in the arena of the JBR murder, has become impossible to sustain, anyway
<lflowers> most people know Jam's real name by now
<lizzie> jameson has gone public though, it's a different situation
<pati> It's not a big deal anymore
<pati> LOL
<AK> Charles Ng and the OKC bombers are on Death Road for convictions with much less evidence.
<phantom> true
<pati> awww, mentioned me huh
<AK> We shouldn't think that money buys justice or our system is dead.
<AK> Let's talk about what will go down when P is arrested. Will she get bail? Will she turn on J?
<phantom> Hey, with money you can do anything. Wake up. Although I still don't think
<lflowers> yes, I believe P will eventually take J down
<AK> Death Road? LOL, you know what I meant.
<scarecrow> She won't be arrested.
<phantom> the Ramseys murdered JonBenet.
<scarecrow> How do you know?
<pati> gee phantom must have looked at the evidence and came to that "opinion" LOL
<lake> And Chuck knows very little about the case either.  Just what Thomas told him.  And that is just one aspect of the case.
<LDBug> details phantom???
<scarecrow> Why don't you let phantom answer for himself?
<phantom> exactly rith pati. :-)
<lflowers> until the Ramseys are separated, however (imo) I don't believe their facade will crumble
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<scarecrow> what facade?
<phantom> right, can't spell in the dark.
<snowwolf> I would LOVE to look at ALL the evidence
<AK> Lake, Chuck's sources are impressive; hardly just Thomas, if him at all.
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<scarecrow> snowwolf, have you looked at any of the evidence?
<phantom> Me too snow.
<LDBug> thought he was part time car salesman
<pati> snow, only a "select" few can do that...scarcrow and his friends
<snowwolf> I've read the autopsy, although I will admit I don't understand alot of it.
<scarecrow> I think pati has an inferiority complex.
<pati> LOL, I think not
<lflowers> scarecrow, why do you think John would be so eager to leave the state so soon after "finding" his daughter's body?
<phantom> Dadof4, are you married to momof4?  :-)
<snowwolf> I've looked at the note, read some of the books
<Geno> heh heh, "lynch mob"....that still slays me.
<Kaethe> lynch mob???  tacky...
<scarecrow> Or she talks before engaging her brain.
<pati> I just don't have an inflated ego and state "facts" that have not been proven
<Dadof4> yes I am
<scarecrow> Assuming she has one.
<lflowers> how do you explain his rigid stoicism in the wake of her death?
<LDBug> burial
<Geno> Snow, I don't know of anyone who's looked at the autopsy who has agreed with another's "theory"....
<AuntieBJ> BullChit
<phantom> Oh, ok. Hi then Dadof4!
<pati> :-) bj
<AK> Yay, CG
<Dadof4> So how do You know mom???
<scarecrow> No two people react in the same way to the death of a child, besides how much time did you spend with the Ramseys in the days, weeks and months following the murder?
<phantom> She's on Justice Watch?
<pati> so scarecrow, you are claiming to have spent time with the Ramseys?  So you are a personal friend of theirs?
<Geno> momof4 is, p2...at least one momof4 is there.
<lflowers> who are you,scarecrow?
<Dadof4> nope...wrong one
<lake> And that Chuck is the reason he may have done it.  He was covering his secret, not theirs.
<pati> or a family member, you are rather defensive of them
<lflowers> are you going to be a tease all night?
<phantom> OH, where is she on Dad?
<Dadof4> She doesnt post on Justice
<jameson> sounds like an ad for a soap-opera
<scarecrow> God, my how you do jump to conclusions and draw unjustifiable inferences, pati. I don't think you want to learn anything, I think you just want to defend your ego.
<lflowers> if you are as credible as you say you are, prove it
<Kaethe> these are good questions...
<scarecrow> Prove that I'm not.
<Dadof4> Well Jamson....can You explain why NOONE one this show thinks YOUR theory make any since and are WRONGGGGGGG
<phantom> Scarecrow is only thinking. That only goes on once in a while.
<pati> no you mentioned spending time with the Ramseys not me
<lflowers> Lou?
<scarecrow> Dadof4: You just put your foot in your mouth.
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<frankg> Snow, that makes you as qualified as anyone here...
<phantom> Dadof4, I also think that an intruder murdered JonBenet.
<Geno> :-) FrankG
<pati> so scarecrow are you Lou Smit?
<Geno> no, he's not Lou Smit    Pati
<snowwolf> thanks, frankg(:
<LDBug> Y be so personal
<pati> just asking LOL
<AK> Let's petition for a body cavity search for P!
<seer> where is smit from?
<snowwolf> he lives in CO now, seer
<Geno> CO Springs, Tara
<seer> thx
<phantom> Hey! Which P are you taking about AK!!!!
<Dadof4> There is no basis for that thoery...I dont believe that the Ramsey's killed Her...but that it may have been an accident gone wrong??
<scarecrow> I asked if anyone had spent time, do I have to give you some lessons in remedial English, you keep drawing crazy inferences and misinterpretating and mischaracterizing what I say. Squelchl your big ego for a little while and behave like a civilized person.
<Geno> heh heh
<seer> thx
<seer> heh heh
<lflowers> wait a minute...
<pati> ohhh so defensive...
<lflowers> I think I know who you are, Scarecrow
<pati> calm down scarecrow or your gonna have a stroke
<Dadof4> scarecrow...why did I put my foot in my mouth...
<scarecrow> Pati, what is your educational background?
<pati> none of your business
<scarecrow> You said that no one her agrees with Jameson.
<LDBug> LOL
<AuntieBJ> What is yours scarecrow?
<phantom> If it's an Accident,then the tape buying wasn't planned.SOme people think tha tape proves planning.
<scarecrow> MSEE
<loura> Scarecrow what is your educational background
<LDBug> why the edu background? who cares?
<scarecrow> Hey, Jameson, are you lurking again?
<phantom> I don't have any background.
<lflowers> scarecrow, you're being deliberately vauge and making comments deliberately calculated to invoke speculation
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<scarecrow> Who asked you idiot?
<loura> what is an msee
<lflowers> you can't chastise people for reacting
<Dadof4> I said Chuck...Larry...and Doug on the radio...said that Her theories and statements about talking to the ramseys are Wrong .
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<lflowers> and asking you to clarify yourself
<scarecrow> You guys are plumb stupid!!!
<Geno> Hi Mati
<snowwolf> wb, starling(:
<Geno> heh heh
<jameson> I am listening to the show
<Geno> wb, Starling
<scarecrow> You haven't asked an intelligent question all night!!
<Starling> Thanks snow - everything went haywire here.
<Dadof4> They gave that answer to one of the callers when He asked about Jameson
<pati> I agree LDBug, we all have different views and thoughts on this case, I for one want to see what happens....and then when all the true "facts" are in then I will have a true theory
<phantom> Hey, nobody's perfect scarcrow.  :-)
<LDBug> agree Pati
<scarecrow> Yeah, I'm getting off to listen also--this crowd's a bummer.
<snowwolf> nite, sc(:
<jameson> Seems to me tht they are saying the intruder theory is clearly possible
<LDBug> thanks scaarecfow
<phantom> night sc
<pati> aww pick up your phd and go home
<LDBug> scarecrow
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<jameson> just lurk, Scarecrow
<lizzie> what a jerk
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<pati> LOL liz :-)
<LDBug> maybe we need to study the evidence again
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<LDBug> the autopsy perhaps
<Kaethe> scarecrow seems kinda "young" but maybe that's just being too tender for the internet ;o)
<phantom> totally LD.
<Geno> oops!  sorry for the DC
<Dadof4> and Your friend Larry said He disagrees with Your theories and You chat with Himevery week and He does not trust Your sources either.
<mati99> I got in after trying for 3 hours Geno
<pati> gee, guess he couln't take it...and didn't want to answer any "real" questions.
<snowwolf> mati - you're here(:  welcome
<Geno> I asked lflowers to try and fix that earlier, Mati
<jameson> Gee Dad, I didn't get that at all.  
<lflowers> come again?
<lflowers> fix what?
<Kaethe> This talk about how one would believe there must have been an intruder if ONLY we would study the evidence reminds me of people saying "if you read the bible you would believe like I DO!!"
<Geno> Mati was being k-lined, Lisa
<mati99> getting me in here Lisa
<lflowers> oh...
<Dadof4> You wherent listen very well
<AuntieBJ> You got that right Kaethe
<snowwolf> right, kaethe
<jameson> Fact is, none of them knows who I talk to - I don't tell - they can, I never say it first
<phantom> True Kaethe. But that goes for any arguement, from either side.
<jameson> so they don't know my "sources"
<LDBug> hmmm give me a hint
<Geno> agreed, Kaethe    I'm amused by the "sleuths" omnipresent with all the answers from the tiny bit available to us.
<Dadof4> His word where...I talk to Jameson every week...and for hours...He stated He argues with You over Your theories and find Your intruder theory flawed
<jameson> No - Lance said that
<pati> geno :-), they pontificate that they see all and know all, how silly
<jameson> Larry said I gave him a 2 hour interview
<Dadof4> Do You not talk to Him???
<frankg> well that was fun  :(
<Dadof4> wrong.........
<phantom> I find the Patsy did it theory, very flawed, for sure.
<Starling> Are there any other callers?
<Geno> Frank,...how far are your Huskies going to go in the tourney?
<jameson> and yes, I have talked to Schiller on numerous occasions besides
<Starling> Is Darnay going to be on now that Schiller is off?
<jameson> but we don't fight
<lflowers> he was supposed to be
<Dadof4> I believe it was an accident that went wrong...and they paniced
<lflowers> but it doesn't look like he's going to show up
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<pati> Wow, what's this about biological terrorism...
<lflowers> I understand Darnay was in the chatroom earlier
<phantom> That could be it, but it doesn't make enough sense for me to beleive that it was just an"accident."
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<loura> she was murdered
<pati> well guess the JonBenet talk is over....so good night, it's late and I'm rather tired, enjoyed it...the good and the bad.
<Geno> 'nite Pati
<lflowers> goodnight, Pati
<Kaethe> If I don't go to bed I will be pouring orange juice over my daughter's cereal in the morning...
<snowwolf> nite, pati(:
<mati99> nite Pati
<BayBB> Night Pati
<jameson> 2 more hours, Pati 
<pati> goodnight everyone
<Starling> Nite Pati
<jameson> call in and talk to Lance
<snowwolf> nite, kaethe
<phantom> night pat
<Kaethe> night pati!
<pati> well I worked 10 hours today, so I am rather tired.
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<BayBB> Night kaethe
<phantom> fresh sqeezed K?
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<Kaethe> Wait...I'm not gone yet ;o)
<snowwolf> sorry, kaethe - thought you were leaving(:
<BayBB> LOL Okay Kaethee
<Dadof4> Sorry Jameson..I errd...I meant Labce
<Dadof4> Lance
<Kaethe> I SHOULD leave ;o)
<lflowers> round table discussion is coming up next 1-800WROW-590
<lake> Didn't anyone ask Schiller about the Ramseys maybe haveing houseguests the night of the killing?  Schiller said something about that on Hardball.
<Geno> is Dave espousing the good graces of the Montana Militia?...or did I hear that wrong.
<lflowers> Houseguests topic to be discussed next
<frankg> Geno, if they play like the semi & finals of BE tourney... final four.
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<Starling> I don't think noone did, Lake.
<snowwolf> call in Lake
<lake> Thanks flowers.
<Geno> they were awesome tonight, FrankG     maybe this is the year for the finals.
<jameson> thanks for checking Dad
<lake> I think Schiller may know about the others but just can't say.
<frankg> nite Pati
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<snowwolf> hi, amber
<Kaethe> lake...schiller said tonite what he probably said on the other interview...that an intruder wouldn't have known IF there had been someone in the guestroom that night.  No fear of discovery was the point.
<amber> hello
<phantom> I forgot what the round table talk was about.
<Geno> Hi amber
<amber> hello
<AuntieBJ> Who is on the roundtable Lisa?
<Dadof4> np...but he says You and He discuss it EVERYWEEK...that He doesnt believe that any on the RAMSEYS inner circle would or should talk to You...so He doubts Your sources
<phantom> hi amber
<amber> hello phantom
<frankg> Good night all... early morning mass is gonna be a bear :(
<snowwolf> nite, frank(:
<BayBB> Night Frankg
<Geno> 'nite FrankG    nice to see you in chat.
<phantom> sleep in?
<Kaethe> light a candle, frank...
<phantom> night
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<lizzie> night frank
<snowwolf> hi, ROSY
<lflowers> back
<Starling> Bye FRank
<lflowers> auntie:Schiller,Green, and Oliner
<mati99> Hi amber
<amber> hi
<Geno> that's a good poster, FrankG     always a good read.
<snowwolf> seems to be a nice guy, geno(:
<AuntieBJ> Lisa, you said that the next two hours was a roundtable....
<Geno> he's a hoops fan to boot, Snow   :-)
<AuntieBJ> or the next hour I mean
<ROSY> Dadof 4, how are you?
<snowwolf> he has to be all right then(:
<Geno> heh heh  
<lflowers> oh...I was out, smoking...Lance was posting under my hat
<Dadof4> fine Rosey...and How are You???
<lflowers> for a bit
<Dadof4> Should I know You???
<lflowers> I wasn't sure what you were talking about
<ROSY> sure you should LOL!
<Geno> and one of the few fence sitters, Snow...in this case that actually knows how what the forums are all about.
<Dadof4> Hey there.....
<AuntieBJ> Lisa, I was just asking who was going to be on for the next hour
<lflowers> I'm not sure
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<snowwolf> right, geno - I always like his posts - a very fair minded person(:
<lflowers> if I'm not mistaken, it's open stage
<ROSY> Dad, what is happening here, did I miss anything?
<Starling> I enjoy reading Franks posts.
<Dadof4> Not really
<lake> I just think it is odd that Schiller would even mention the guests maybe being in the house.  He didn't bother to mention anything about the dog maybe being in the house.
<snowwolf> lake, why do you not seem to care for chuck green?
<ROSY> Is Chuck Green a lawyer?
<ROSY> he talks like one
<lflowers> it's time to call in
<jameson> LOL read this
<lake> And if a dog were in the house, an intruder would have been in big trouble.
<jameson> After Schiller left, the radio talk show turned into theJAMS show! How she got the host to not only defend her
<jameson>  but promote her Timeline is beyond me!
<jameson>  Maybe she is sleeping with him. 
<lflowers> open invitation from WROW
<Dadof4> I didnt think the dog was in the house...but next door
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<Kaethe> lisa - did you hear me say the other night that I filled out a survey for ARBITRON and listed WROW on my 10 day diary?
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<LDBug> goodnight
<LDBug> work to do
<jameson> night LB
<lflowers> :)
<snowwolf> nite< LB(:
<lflowers> nite,Ladybug
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<phantom> night LD
<AuntieBJ> Jameson, Dave and Lance are promoting you and you know it 
<jameson> Lisa - that bit about me sleeping with Lance is on the internet - LOL - how stupid.
<lflowers> are you serious?LOL
<lflowers> I cant wait to see this
<jameson> Call in and promote your site if you want, BJ
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<AuntieBJ> I can't call in
<Dadof4> That isnt how I heard it...Chuck attacked You because You werent Using Your real Name...and that He is upfront with people..
<Kaethe> It's all on the internet...
<snowwolf> wb. mati(:
<lflowers> well, I'll tell you what
<Mati> thanks Snow
<jameson> Chuck wanted me to verify my name - pretty silly - it is in the book
<lflowers> anybody who wishes to advertise their website can do it tonight
<Geno> wb, Mati
<phantom> Maybe CHuck doesn't have a life that he needs to worry about.
<Kaethe> I think Chuck wanted you to be up front on the radio, that's all.
<lflowers> I'll have Lance mention it
<Geno> that's the way I took it, Kaethe     just common courtesy
<jameson> well, he got what he wanted.  :)
<lflowers> auntie...if you want
<phantom> Oh no think I'm getting the *BLEEP* tired mode
<AuntieBJ> Yes, have him mention it
<lflowers> k
<lake> Yes but Schiller mentioned possible houseguests.  We know JBR had a dog, but an intruder would not have known that.  So why would Schiller mention houseguests over the dog not being disturbed an unannounced visit?
<Starling> That was some strange music.Lol
<AuntieBJ> Here it is Lisa: http://www.angelfire.com/oh2/ACandyRose/index.html
<Geno> oh chit,...it's going to be about Colfax now?
<lflowers> Randy walker's song
<BayBB> oh chit is right
<Dadof4> THE DOG WASNT THERE
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<phantom> so
<Starling> Call in Lake.  I missed that show were Schiller said that.
<snowwolf> wb, AK(:
<Dadof4> Rosey how do You do private??
<ROSY> the dog was at the nieghbors hosue I thought Dad
<Geno> I needed to catch the scores anyway,...but I was going to leave the WROW show on til it was done.
<phantom> so? the dog wasn't there.?
<Geno> wb, AK
<Dadof4> I know
<AK> Danged AOL! Thanks, guys.
<ROSY> click on the thing that says to room, then on member and my name
<lake> I Know Dad/4.  The dog was not there.  But maybe houseguests were.
<Mati> gawd between trying to by pass being k-lined now my radio is congested
<BayBB> :-(  Mati
<phantom> So the book is like the investigation?
<Starling> Who was it that wrote the editorial, that counted mistakes about theirself?
<snowwolf> who was that e-mail from that Lance just read?
<Geno> dunno, Snow
<snowwolf> thanks, geno(:
<Geno> when I hear Colfax, I get deaf...    :-)
<jameson> from Colfax's sister
<Dadof4> thanks
<Kaethe> lake..I was really listening...I wanted to hear him hinting at that and it didn't happen.  It seems he just keeps using the fact that an intruder wouldn't know who was there.  It's something you'll have to deal with ;o)
<snowwolf> thanks, jameson(:
<jameson> welcome
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<lake> OK Kaethe
<snowwolf> darn, i lost the sound and the lady is asking what Lake wanted to know.  can someone tell me what is said please?
<Dadof4> So jameson...why is that everyone on the show doesnt believe You actually talked to the Ramsey..
<Mati> join the club Snow :-)
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<Geno> interesting caller from NC, this lady on now.
<BayBB> Yes it is
<ROSY> I think she is busy surfing the boards to see if anyone is talking about her Dad
<Kaethe> Lake, is that you on the radio?>
<AuntieBJ> Lake is a man 
<Starling> I missed Schiller's comments tonight about others in the home.  What exactly did he say?
<Mati> Mrs Lake then ?
<Geno> could be Lake's better half, Kathe
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<lizzie> is that lake's wife?
<AuntieBJ> Or he was lasst month anyway
<Geno> she sounds lovely,...whoever she is.
<Kaethe> oh, can't keep that straight...
<snowwolf> i love her voice
<Mati> me too
<ROSY> Dad being the center of attention in just one spot isn't good enough for her
<amber> she sounds very lovely
<phantom> She sounds of normal iq.
<Geno> is that a compliment?  p2   :-)
<phantom> Not really-sorry. Nothing personal. :-)
<lake> What evidence???
<Geno> I took it as a nice compliment, P2   just kidding you a tad    :-)
<phantom> I just meant that she didn't seem to be terribly knowledgable about murders.
<Dadof4> Now why is it when I ask Jameson a personal question about NOONE believing Her She refused to answer
<lake> They can't convict anyone one the tabloid case.
<ROSY> Yeah that is amazing Dad
<phantom> But she's getting better now?
<ROSY> Happens a lot where I come from, just check for yourself from todays posts
<amber> she sounds like an average person but ak sounds out of control
<lake> Fleet White is a jackass.
<Geno> now, Lake   
<Kaethe> you know him,lake?
<Starling> He just wanted to see his statements to cops.
<Starling> Didn't Pam aske for the same thing recently?
<lake> I know of him K.
<Kaethe> why such VENOM, lake?
<lflowers> very classy
<lflowers> only a southerner would be so polite
<seer> modest and refined
<phantom> Maybe the Ramseys are just pointing the fingers because the police won't let them a lone.
<jameson> Dad - I speak my mind.  I have my supporters, my detractors...  doesn't change the facts or what I think
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<Geno> nice plug for SD, Seer   :-)
<Kaethe> you really do have a fine site, auntiebj.
<phantom> Auntie BJ is Candyrose?
<Geno> and a plug for BJ's site,...nice going.
<phantom> Yes, I just saw it. Nice.
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<Geno> wb, Snow
<phantom> hey snow
<Kaethe> It's been another interesting night and I'm fading fast.  See you guys next time!
<snowwolf> thanks(:
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<snowwolf> nite, kaethe(:
<BayBB> Night Kaethe
<lflowers> nite Kaethe
<phantom> night K
<Geno> 'nite Kaethe
<AuntieBJ> thanks Lisa
<AuntieBJ> thank Lance for me
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<lflowers> no problem
<phantom> I'm fading too, but trying to last the last 15 min.
<snowwolf> same here, phantom(:
<amber> there are just too many commericials
<amber> i guess I better leave then
<amber> goodnight
<lflowers> gnite
<phantom> night am
<BayBB> Night Amber
<snowwolf> nite, ambeR(:
* amber door
<phantom> I forgot, snow, you think the Ramseys did it?
<phantom> It seems most do.
<snowwolf> no, I don't, but I'm not closed to that idea totally.  I do tend to lean towards that Burke could have done it.
<phantom> I can only remember my own thinking.
<phantom> :-)
<snowwolf> hey, you're ahead of me - LOL
<phantom> barely..
<phantom> LOL
<jameson> no she was not a close friend
<phantom> But I don' think Burke could have done it in any way.
<Starling> I thought they went on a trip together before in California, with their husbands.
<phantom> Just for the record..
<lflowers> it's a slim possibility, but a possibility still...
<Starling> Maybe I'm confusing them for another couple.
<jameson> she has no evidence - it was her new "friends" and their "handwriting evidence" that turned her - that and being hurt because she was sent away
<jameson> Judith's husband worked for John on occasion
<snowwolf> I really hope he didn't, phantom, but I still consider it a strong possibility.
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<amber> haha
<phantom> Sure..
<lflowers> somebody in the Ramsey household did it, IMO
<Geno> wb, Annette
<lake> Phillips and Patsy seemed to be pretty good friends.  She went to Patsy's BD Party
<phantom> who knows?
<snowwolf> wb, annette.
<annette> Thanks Geno
<phantom> where's bobbi?
<Mati> Hi again Annette :-)
<lake> Fleet didn't do it.
<phantom> Only mousekateers name I could remember.
<annette> mati I'm having your problems now
<Mati> did you get banned ?
<lake> Patsy did not do it.  AK just reads the tabloids.
<phantom> Give it a rest. One case is not the other case.
<lflowers> who do you think did it,Lake?
<annette> Mati not banned just having trouble getting in.I thought  iwas here but must have been disconnected and not known.
<amber> Ak represents a lot of things a so dislike about people's opinions
<lflowers> you should call in
<lake> Two kids.
<lflowers> you always do
<lflowers> you have a great voice
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<Scout> It's been a good evening     Night All
<lflowers> night
<Mati> nite Scout
<Geno> 'nite Scout
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<lake> I have enough questions of my own.  I just need answers rooted in fact.
<BayBB> Night Scout
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<Geno> don't we all, Lake
<phantom> Did he contact the auhtorities to get involved in that boy's murder?
<lflowers> it's just an open forum now...
<lflowers> free discussion
<phantom> Or see a lawyer?
<annette> mati now my RA has gone.
<Geno> net congestion?  Annette   or gone altogether?
<Mati> aw no Annette its so frustrating isnt it
<Mati> just close it and open it again it should work again
<AuntieBJ> I hate that net congestion
<phantom> lizzie-Are you LizzieB?
<annette> geno cant hear anything at all.
<lizzie> yes
<phantom> I didn't see you. HI!
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<lflowers> wb
<Geno> OK, Annette.    if it's not net congestion, ...do like Mati suggested.
<Mati> Hi Snow
<lizzie> hi p2
<lizzie> i've been mostly lurking tonight
<AK> Lake, I don't "just" read the tabs. LOL
<snowwolf> thanks(:
<phantom> I didn't reognize you without your B I guess.
<phantom> :-)
<annette> Its just started again by itself
<Geno> :-) Annette
<lizzie> lol p2
<phantom> Well, I give up, going to bed, night all.
<lflowers> night
<Geno> (net congestion should show in the Status Bar...if that's what's happening)
<phantom> later Liz
<snowwolf> nite, phantom(:
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<Geno> 'nite phanty
<lizzie> nite p2
<annette> Geno I still keep trying songhits veryday
<amber> nite
<Geno> good, Annette   I sure hope you get on there.
<lake> Well, AK, I did not know about the Globe mole and how corrupt the investigation really was until Shiller laid it all out.  Maybe you did, but I did not.
<AK> So speak for yourself then, not me.
<snowwolf> i'm calling it a night also.  take care, all - nite(:
<lizzie> nite snow
<Geno> 'nite Snow\
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<annette> nite snow;-)
<BayBB> Night Snow
<crazy1> c ya
<lflowers> night, snow:)
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<crazy1> so whats up with all you chatting folks
<crazy1> floodin me out here
<lflowers> nothing much...
<Mati> not much
<lake> She sold the photos for $40,000 dollars.  Fourty pieces of silver.
<lflowers> just random thoughts
<crazy1> look slike it
<crazy1> er looks
<crazy1> hmmm
<Geno> we should have thought to ask Schiller about Pam's restraining order against Susan Stine
<lflowers> the evening is pretty much over
<crazy1> >needs sleep
<lflowers> good point, Geno
<Mati> it took me so long to get in here Im staying till next week LOL
<lake> The experts say that they can't say Patsy wrote the note for sure.
<Geno> heh heh, Mati
<lflowers> were you here earlier, crazy1?
<crazy1> i dont think so 
<crazy1> not shure
<crazy1> mabey
<lflowers> are you a Ramsey murder follower?
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<crazy1> hmmm
<lflowers> well, that's it
<AK> twas fun
<lflowers> Goodnight, everyone
<Geno> interesting evening
<lizzie> that was interesting
<BayBB> Goodnight
<lizzie> nite all
<crazy1> how *BLEEP* yall dont ever come on here but once in a while
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<lake> THANKS A LOT
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<Geno> 'nite all
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<Starling> Nite
<AK> Bye Lake, bye Mrs. Lake
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<crazy1> and then when ya come on here yall just like pack in
<crazy1> ????
<Starling> Good show :-)
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<Mati> well crazy the show is over en all
<crazy1> what show
<crazy1> what the hell am i missin here
<amber> crzy you missed a show
<amber> a radio show
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