Session Start: Wed Apr 21 00:02:35 1999 *** Now talking in #wrow *** Topic is 'Midnight til 4am EST The Dave Lucas Show; Continuing coverage of the JonBenet Murder. Tonight's topic, "The Media's Angle" with guests Micheal Tracey, Chuck Green, and Frank Coffman.' *** Set by lflowers on Tue Apr 20 23:06:34 hey BJ! *** jameson (jameson245@XXXXX.abts.net) has joined #wrow i thought that was you,auntie bj hi jams hi Hi guys *** Mati99 (matilda@203.57.129.999) has joined #wrow OMG, I just found out a bunch of those members of that trenchcoat gang are on AOL hi mati Hi everyone :-) We were looking up their profiles Scary as hell *** August (Cas15@XXXXX.sjc-ca.concentric.net) has joined #wrow Hi August hi,august:) hi, everyone no nuts here tonite Hi mati Hi August LOL August no Hi Mrs B how'v you been which high school was this? columbine I've heard only bits and pieces....I just got off work not too long ago haven't seen the news...anything.Just word of mouth. *** moi (java@202.185.233.999) has joined #wrow I heard on the news awhile back that 25 people dead Hi Moi One of the Aol members web directory had all the instructions on how to make the bumbs !! bombs that was what I heard, too, what can be done to stop thiings like this Hi there The rest of the members are still out there. One of them was online tonight earlier and got off about 1/2 hours ago. He went in and changed his web directory and profile while he was online time for laws governing the internet Mrs. Brady, are there any posters you know about who are connected to Comumbine? Wow, Candy, how do you know that? Nope, not that I know of they...the assailants...are dead as well,by their own hands,yes? *** LamaLama (LamaLama@XXXXX.nycap.rr.com) has joined #wrow Good, Lisa, I think 2 are dead, at least one killer was not accounted for last I heard *** Texas (java@XXXXX.vvm.com) has joined #wrow Hi, Texas, good to see you How did I do what? hi texas Hi all... *** maxi (java@XXXXX.s245.tnt6.ann.va.dialup.rcn.com) has joined #wrow know about the member being online evening,maxi hello everyone. hi maxi Thank you, August, for letting me know about this chat.. I got a list of the screen names August and went into their profiles and directories In the one directory there is all the instructions on how to make the bombs I was hoping you would come *** MRWEBB (rushnut99@XXXXX.ipt.aol.com) has joined #wrow Hi Dave and all *** preview (java@XXXXX.tnt02.agis.net) has joined #wrow *** MRWEBB (rushnut99@XXXXX.ipt.aol.com) has left #wrow I wonder if Lance ever reached Tracy...I'm not in the studio tonight,obviously *** preview has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) Lance was calling him when I was here earlier *** Dimwit (java@XXXXX.tnt02.agis.net) has joined #wrow *** Mati99 has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer (TCP/IP connection broken)) hi dimmy I think we are all in shock about Littleton...I am in Killeen and the memories of Lubys are still here.. Hi everyone Hi Beanie *** MRWEBB (rushnut99@XXXXX.ipt.aol.com) has joined #wrow OK, we will talk about Littleton too, how can we help it? hey,rushnut HEY is MRWEBB rushnut? I presume *** MRWEBB is now known as RUSHNUT yes good answer K GOT IT NOW hey there august im differnt you are capital ah...you're in the studio do you know if Lance ever got a hold of Tracy? yes hi august<-------from lamce Not really 25...more like 15? good hi ma Yo...Dim, where ya been? booooooooo *** SpiderWomen (java@XXXXX.ipt.aol.com) has joined #wrow yes lisa he got a hold of him just behavin', Tex hi everyone terrible night Nah, teehee, Dim...glad to see ya back.. If there is an indictment , will an arrest follow right away? Isn't there another decision to be made by the DA? *** BayBB (baybb@XXXXX.artelco.com) has joined #wrow Hi, Bay Hi All hey hey hi BB hello we are the world Oh yeah, I can really see why everyone gets upset that Mrs. Brady be called "lynch mob" LOL i do *** mimi (java@XXXXX.san.rr.com) has joined #wrow can it Jams...it's a horrible day and don''t think anyone is in the mood for your selfpromoting chit I'm sorry, but if my child was lying there and you couldn't go to her, I just can' can't imagine Phuck off SPIDER woman now now be nice this is now a no bs zone Aw... I don't think this is going to be cool - later somthing in that water Did anyone see the Rockford Files tonight? About a man that was accused of child molestation that was innocent? you don't have to leave,jams *** scout (java@XXXXX.68.galesburg.net) has joined #wrow don' leave jams SpiderWoman....maybe we don't need the flames? Now ol "rat face" is on Texas, I'm sorry but Jams asked for it... thanks cr....she was insulting Mrs.B.... At least be honest, SpiderWomen, about what your agenda is? That's right Yeah - I called a spade a spade - Mrs. Brady is lynch mob maerial - truth hurts, I guess *** LamaLama (LamaLama@XXXXX.nycap.rr.com) has left #wrow Texas, she was insulting Mrs.B one more time....Many of us are sick of it ! there'no need for this CandyRose...Sorry, didn't mean you....Guess I am just so sad about Littleton.. No adgenda Texas I just don't cotton to BS 25 are dead *** LamaLama (ppasqua1@XXXXX.nycap.rr.com) has joined #wrow maybe the group could benefit from some relationship therapy, interesting idea *** Whispering (java@XXXXX.denver23.co.pub-ip.psi.net) has joined #wrow ed? Hi whispering Claudia doesn't hide what she thinks - it is the others get bent out of shape when she is labeled hi,ed Oh - Brady is unbiased - LOL - Are you looking for a fight tonight Jameson? *** HeyJudd (Headache55@XXXXX.ipt.aol.com) has joined #wrow mumble, mumble, mumble, mutter, mutter Just not going to NOT say what is coming through Hi Whispering I have to say...Is Jameson unbiased? *** HeyJudd is now known as Granny10 Hi Whisp Look we are all testy, and upset with the terrible shool shooting in Co.. and our egos are not important..... Well why don't you just zipper your lip for once That's Whispering ED, to you! Hell no, I am not unbiased - anycome can say that *** RUSHNUT is now known as rushnut hmmmm Mrs. Brady has done hundereds of hours of work, we disagree with her, but if we all need to be civil tap tap tap go the toes mbmelmemllmemmmmblmegarble Whispering - you going to follow the Littleton thing? Whispering, get the to spellchecker! as far as I'm concerned,jameson and mrs.brady are equally worthy of respect write on it? yes lisa I am going to ,mmmbmemlmewdmm I want to keep my teen home from school tomorrow and every day after that..Of course we are all testy......Such a horrible nite.. *** Matthews sets mode: +o rushnut Congratulations, rushnut for Is "rushnut" a Limbaugh fan? We had a gunman on the roof of our elementary school here at one point - nothing came of it but it was scary no its the band my teen just came in, I'm going to hug her and be back in a minute *** Disconnected Session Close: Wed Apr 21 00:28:17 1999 Session Start: Wed Apr 21 00:31:52 1999 *** Now talking in #wrow *** Topic is 'Midnight til 4am EST The Dave Lucas Show; Continuing coverage of the JonBenet Murder. Tonight's topic, "The Media's Angle" with guests Micheal Tracey, Chuck Green, and Frank Coffman.' *** Set by lflowers on Tue Apr 20 23:06:34 It is important to some of us Maybe we need some time to grieve over the Littleton horror before we can really think about JonBenet? He doesn't have an accent -- he's just got an attiutude. LOL Whispering.... A moment of silence. he doesn't have an accent?? LOL - He IS from England, Ed Ya got that right, Whisp *** doug (java@XXXXX.ipt.aol.com) has joined #wrow back, is this Tracy? No, he isn't from England. He's FAKING! Howmuch time have you spent with him, ED? Scotland Manchester... It's a poor imitation of an English accent, obviously. ENGLAND Soho. whispering check your Pm You're cutre, Ed he's from atlanta accent is not Manchester - northeast England perhaps "My Fair Gentleman" "The Wain in Spain faws mostwee on the pwain." got he does talk...way too many words and he sounds very very nervous. What's he talking about? He's boring me to sleep. LOL Whispering Is anyone even listening to him? yes I feel like Maxi did....How can we be here......are we only playing a game of Clue? Sheesh, I am gonna take some time to mourn the innocent dead in Littleton.. no Who is this on? His is the class you cut every day The Littleton Horror is a small sad reflection of what's really happening in the minds and hearts of society grin Blah-blah-blah-blah-blah, etc. I sat in on his class - it was good and the students were really involved the minds and "hearts" of sociopaths,you mean . LOL.... *** snowwolf (java@XXXXX.tx.us.ibm.net) has joined #wrow I' bet he's better at getting a group to interact Hi snow hey,snow:) Hi Snow hi snow :) hi, everyone(: Uhhh, I fell asleep. Did I miss anything?? He is not a professional speaker, I've forgotten what does he teach? hi snow Give me an update.\ He was asked how he heard from Patsy - he is answering a question journalism What language is he speaking? He speaks journalese. Does he teach writing? journalism - i suppose so,in a sens e *** anarchy (anarchy@XXXXX.middletown-01.va.dial-access.att.net) has left #wrow feisty but not angry....interesting He teaches "Ranting At The Media." lol He teaches "Media Bashing 101" He talks about responsible reporting He should be deported immediately!!! Oh yes this is so funny...laugh away Freakin' foreigner!!! I ain't listenin' to no stickin' foreigner! hahah ironically, the editing only served to illustrate Patsy's personality defects rather than diminish them why is he so nervous....very very nervous, almost scared Somebody call the Immigration Service! No - that is just how he talks Does he have his green card? It's his style of speech I am utterly fascinated -- NOT! He is great to visit with - ED - you ever met with him? what? Rushnut... did tracey have any personal contact with the Ramseys other than during the filming? How many times? When? And WHY? Blah=blah-blah, blather, blather, blather. I wasn't expecting that kind of answer Whis, I'll bet you hated most of your professors hehe...sure he is....Let's just say I don't want to meet him....does not impress me in the least If this guys gets any vaguer and more indefinite he will disappear altogether. goodnight everyone yeah, not amember of the LMST - lol LOLW *** Granny10 has quit IRC (EOF from client) He got the program together, got the Ramseys to really talk, it has been our best look at them I hate everyone -- until provin' otherwise. LMST? is this the fox trot or tango? (lynch mob spin team) thanks(: They said there is an explosion at the school snooze zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz we need direct questions people *** doug has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) There' Candy, a new explosion? explosion?? well I found the crock very interesting....especially Patsy's "helter skelter" eyes. Yes, they said just on f Fox oh no but there's nothing worth commenting on,dan yet sounds like that movie - Heathers Frank Coffman! Now, there is a guy that makes sense!! The kids who started it have boobytrapped their bodies... Rush... I gave you a question above... LOL ED - Unleash Frank! Yeah, where is Frank? LOO LOL I met Frank once. Great guy! We Want Frank !! We Want Frank !! We Want Frank !! We want Frank... We want Frank... Hahahahaha! I wrote about Frank once too Just Whisper his name, CandyRose Am I the only one who wonders why we are here, still talking case? Sheesh, guess I am not a REAL JonBenet case groupie? Frankie, Frankie, Frankie... I talked to Frank once Is Whispering just warming up an attitude to debate with Tracey? Tracey spent timewith the Ramseys - i thought the bomb squad had checked the bodies - that is horrible!!! like a prizefighter? dimwit I think so I talk about Frank the same way Darnay Hoffman talks about Darnay Hoffman! LOL - he just stated he only met them (knew the for 5 days Gotta go Ann Balderdash! *** annette (acurran33@XXXXX.wlg.ihug.co.nz) has joined #wrow HI Annette hi, annette(: hi annette No LOl Whisper... Make sure you find out Tracey's relationship with Jeff Shapiro hi everyone that was fast now here's Frank hi annette *** moi has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) *** Whispering has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer (TCP/IP connection broken)) is Frank using a fake accent LOL That isn't Frank Coffman lol new frank LOL..OK frank fron scenectady *** Texas has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) he is english but it was real funny for a sec The media went for the Ramseys and now really fears lawsuits if no indictment they can't defend themselves at all. can hardly tell which one is talking thats nuts jams' <----snuck out of the studio for a bit ff to do what?hmmm hey has anyone seen matthews No - if there is an indictment, Geraldo could say - hey - there was enough evidence to get an indictment..... *** snowwolf has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer (TCP/IP connection broken)) but if no indictment, the media will really have a problem That IS nutz, Jams! The Rams wouldn't DARE sue and risk being questioned in any court they would really have to cross a line to get in any trouble NO they won't I don't think they're going to have to worry about that,jams That is something Tracey can address - I believe that was covered in the tapes Shapiro had The Ramseys will sue - later - can't now Jams you are the only one who seems to have lawsuit's on the brain They can't sue, Sue. Are you braindead? LOL just like OJ was gonna sue everyone..now what happened there? Ask Tracey, Lance - Can and will the Ramseys sue *** Guest309 (JAVGUEST@XXXXX.atnt9.dialup.ftw1.flash.net) has joined #wrow frank coffman will ask him whats on the cutting room floor that would be a good question thats not worth it Lance,are you there? *** Texas (java@XXXXX.vvm.com) has joined #wrow welcome back, texas Hi this is darby brb dan and lance *** MrsBrady has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) They CAN sue anythime they want, Jams. But, they won't risk it because they would have to open their wholes lives publically before the court. They wouldn't do that ina million years. hi darby, bye Carol Somehow, August, I got lost.. Happens to me a lot just driving around They will sue when it isn't going to damage the homicide investigation - they have to protect that first no comment But Tracey is the best on eto explain that. Well, if we get an intruder arrest, then they could put the tabloids out of business what would I read in the checkout line? They won't do it... and Tracey doesn't make that decision... the Rams do. what, are you kidding....that's almost too funny to comment about Jams...what a load of bull cuckey yes - I know I heard some of the Shapiro tapes and that WAS discussed... *** rushnut is now known as matthews_for_a_moment hi all coffman coming up next hi dan hi lance this is darby *** snowwolf (java@XXXXX.tx.us.ibm.net) has joined #wrow darby of NYC? hey darnay darby lol darby of TX *** matthews_for_a_moment is now known as rushnut *** LamaLama (ppasqua1@XXXXX.nycap.rr.com) has left #wrow hi again(: Darnay should download MIRC darby you can change you hat now, if you want He would be fun in here how? August? hey, darby(: hi snowwolf! hi,darnay..good to see you again ask rushnut Now reporting 15 dead in CO not 25 back type /nick then the name you want I'm glad it's less and not more than they thought *** Guest309 is now known as darby thanks, jams yes but lots of bombs they are saying in and outside the school British dullardism public lynching - he is right I agree that the media is horrible, but that doesn't mean the Rs are innocent They the Ramsey's brought a lot of this upon themselves by their actions and behavior even OJ did not get the media trashing the Ramseys have had, probably because he was arrested right away true sw Lance...when you get a chance,call me at home,K? k They didn't get the book on how the lynch mob would like them to act.... BIG mistake There is a lot that They don't "get" Jams Can't convict the Ramseys for what Susan Smith or OJ may have done baybb thats for sure something like asking a leopard to refrain from killing it's prey for ethical reasons Susan and OJ "might" have done...yea right they are cold blooded murderers cant convict the rameseys BECAUSE of oj Jens SUnd comes off a bit distant, and many have wondered about him. Because he has an alibi, it's ok, but if he didn't... if Jens didn't have the alibi, the media would be after him Lance - he can talk about the "santa" story - he knows the details... santa bear? and he can talk Foster - he has seen the documents true, jams, but I have never seen INNOCENT parents of a murdered child NOT cooperate. Sometimes GUILTY parents do; sometimes they don't but innocent parents seem to always cooperate...until the Ramseys. No Kostanick ergo the Ramseys are not innocent wrong Go for it... Guilty people don't want to talk - the Ramseys WANT to - no they dont sound went off, who is this? WHEN Coffman criticizes EVERYONE LOL GET THEM ON FOR US OPEN AIR NO QUESTIONS Sure they want to talk.... NO GUESTS did you see that menthos "commercial" rushnut? a gas,no? ANYTHING THEY WANT TO SAY NO INTERUPTIONS Y The Ramseys went on CNN, spoke on May1st - got criticized for it - the documentary - other times they have spoken - the public criticizes them - They can't wait to talk PONTOS HA! POONTOS CNN and the documentary do not constitute cooperation with the BPD--these were just propaganda Frank is backpedaling - break time Have you been drinking tonight, Jams? *** LadyBug (java@XXXXX.cen.quik.com) has joined #wrow darby agree totally with you hi, ladybug hi all save some for me evening,LadyBug They produced these so that their voice could be heard and they could use the 5th when at a trial hey ladybug hey rushnut brb *** snowwolf has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer (TCP/IP connection broken)) Gee tracey's voice gets mighty "high" when he gets mad.....LOL Tracey is a twit! TWIT TRACEY LOL tracey is our honored guest! Tracey knows a lot about the case - has met the Ramseys - the lawyers, Coffman doesn't like competition Tracey keeps yammering about that stupid innacurate story about John flying out of Boulder. If that's the only thing the media got wrong.... *** mimi has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) "honored" don't think he's gona get a Pulitzer for the crock LOL That is NOT th e only thing media got wrong Twit should be made an honorary resident of Moron Mountain jameson--who do you think did it? Someone like Richard Davis - amn intruder - and his handwriting and DNA will match the evidence in the Ramsey case Who is Richard Davis? killed polly klaas *** mimi (java@XXXXX.san.rr.com) has joined #wrow murdered Polly Klaas took Polly Klaas from a slumber party and murdered her - Well, he didn't kill JBR! high risk type killer No - but someone like him did he was locked up at the time....guess he's out as the "sick puppy" no he didn't, but bushy-haired intruders do happen! jams, don't you think that the killer had to have known the Ramseys? someone like McElroy who made it to the suspect list and themn told a tabloid about it either someone set them up or they killed her I think he targeted the Ramseys - didn't "know" them well people dont kill thier prize bushy haired strangers...seems that's the perfered discription of every killer I have seen trying to pin this on someone else.....stock answer didn't name the business or child in the note I think I go for the deliberate setup to get the parents what worse could you do to someone ? then who??? Jams... Who does Tracey think killed JonBenet? aren't ther any strait haired killers..or does having bushy hair make you a killer Why didn't the Rs wake Burke up that morning? Well, explain the DNA, handwriting, lack of cord and tape in the house, motive, unmatched lint on genitals, footprint near body..... ask Tracey Dimwit LOL Pati but you may need to line up at the mountain Why didn't the Rs wake Burke up that morning? Tracey will say he does not know - but if he had to say - he doesn't believe the parents did it He was asked on air LadyBug... he wouldn't answer. Figures of course not he's much to smart than doing something stupid like that go figure would you ? if you were him? The lynch mob can't explain away the list above SpiderWomen, a good question, are more killers bushy haired or strait? just ignore all that lol How did this person "targeting" the Rs know the amount of the bonus? Seems that it must have been someone a bit more intimate no they wont Rushnut... have Lance comment to Twit that Jams says he believes the Rams are innocent. the 118 wasn't the bonus, IMO - it was something else IP like that WHY DIDN"T THEY WAKE UP BURKE???? they saw he was safe - they wanted to deal with the kidnapping - call for help - waking Burke wouldn't help - would confuse... the above list can be explained ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh But any parent would wake up the other kid to see if he had heard or seen anything!!!!! Sundance did it on JW Not exactly what I said Dimwit - (What an appropriate name) Sundance did what? Sundance did what??? Sundance posted on JW abut the website DNA deluted...handwriting "could" be Patsy", cord and tape could have left house in Patsy's handbag, bedwetting and becoming a more asertive child, maybe she didn't want to compete in the kiddke pagents anymore, so no Miss America in future, lint could have come from anyone at anytime, and footprint from workman who may have been in the home when Patsy had the remodeling done..they used the basement... what website? I will get you the URL if you want Let me get it lint on her genitals could be from anyone anytime - OK! thanks spider i cant keep up and you got it dna in panties? If I had to account for every footprint in my house, I'd be in big trouble... and my house is only 2 years old could be from washcloth...which may have also left the house in "Patsy's " handbag, they didn't search them when they left the house right? This is the DejaNews site where the message is: http://x16.dejanews.com/[ST_rn=qs]/getdoc.xp?AN=468757180&CONTEXT=924646229.364052583&hitnum=0 not deluted - not if they can know it isn't Ramsey and are looking for a match what message about what? a study was done by some foresics lab where pubic hair was found to travel around the house anything can be anywhere The message Ladybug about the killings IN colordo weak DNA which could be from anyone.... oh we know that does it also get into the panties? ok thanks CandyRose it IS deteriorated, Jams! It matches no person on the planet what is deteriorated? destroyed? if they were someone elses panties and washed....DNA from another child? unreadable Wrong Darby - it will match the killer - the cops aren't looking for a match because they have nothing - Here' the latest on the AOL posting - AP - http://www.newsday.com/ap/rnmpnt0i.htm if she was changed then the lint could weel be from the dryer jams They were new and clean panties, not borrowed how do you know lint matched nothing in the house *** PedroII (java@XXXXX.arctic.net) has joined #wrow HI Pedro was a panty wrapper found the posting was a fake - wasn' the trenchcoat mafia I think you can tell if panties are new If I had to account for every piece of lint on my clothing I Hi good evening. would be in trouble mimi I dont want to read it if just fake stuff The jet again. How week Pedroll are you Pedro? hello Pedroll Yes, Darby, I´ Pedro. panties were recently bought - cops have receipt Hi Pedro you made it lint and hair flys around Jams....I have two dogs and two cats, and I am constantly finding hairs everywhere and vacuming all the time. Yes,Annette I made it, LOl. :-) Pedro Hello pedro... and a hair will match other hairs in the house- the lint did not Hi, Spiderwomen. what did the lint consist of spcificly The cops LOOKED for the match - not there every person who enters the house leaves som trace evidence.... lint? LOL how does one match lint dark blue lint on her genitals matched nothing in the house - need a lab for that rushnut they had the lab work on it So? lint is well,...just lint *** Texas has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) she was washed down righ.....maybe a dark blue facecloth: No - lint is NOT "just lint". depends on colors and fibres what is it then? ok lint is lint and could come from anywher next That wasn't the media criticizing Ryckman ... it was the public! lint is fibers that can be identified to a certain extent, is there is no match, then there is no match *** scout has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer (TCP/IP connection broken)) Right - any pro-Ramsey person is villified Jameson, couldn't they have taken the source of the lint out of the house along with the rope and duct tape...right in Patsy's purse? its lint whats it suppose to match did the "perp" come in with all that stuff LOL....including something to "wash" down her body with I agree Darby.... and Coffman and Boyles are buddies - funny how Frank doesn't like to talk about that - Darby - Patsy couldn't even use the toilet by herself... ohhhh he's using "bloddy" naughty naughty Tracey jameson, I believe that she was EXTREMELY remorseful Where do you think they Ramseys got the foreign DNA to put in the panties - This is silly talk Patsy or JonBenet couldn't use the toilet get it strait Jams walmart I don't believe it was foreign...it was deteriorated and that's why it doesn't match. No this isnt that silly her body was never WASHED DOWN how the hell do you know that Jams.... it was wiped I hope someone is saving this chat... Jams is making a fool of hirself three of us left the studio the forums washed her down lololol Hi Dim Hi Pedro If the lynch mob says it three times it is true?? Like that the 911 tape was played? It was NOT jameson, do you believe that Burke's voice was on the 911 tape? no What will you do if it's true? think twice, seriously smart what if you heard it? Would you believe it then... thank you, jameson Patsy may have been remorseful at first,but four months later she appeared on television with her composure intact and an almost buoyant readiness to move on and forgive but it isn't there What if Burkes voice IS on the 911 tape, Jams? What would that say to you? jameson, are you sure? amny have said you can hear it if you want to ....or not now,I think she's merely exasperated It would say that the Ramseys lied about that - not that they killed their daughter Yes, I am sure If they would lie about that what else have they lied about? Dimwit What if Burkes voice IS NOT on the 911 tape? WHAT would you say to that??? I think they just might not have remembered that Burke got up for awhile and went back to bed big deal Coffman himself said he and Chuck Green know the tape was never played publicly and Green says the voice is not heard there and they are NOT my souerces Jams... what good reason would the Rams have to lie about that in a murder investigation? so who says it is there? a tqabloid OH sure they forgot Burke getting up and asking them what was wrong...give me a break well, it was a stressful morning LOL They didn't forget it - it didn't happen Were you there Jams? maybe they dint want the police to question him either way guilty or intruder I have spoken to the Ramseys, reporters, investigators... would you want your kid drilled with questions Burke was drilled - the Ramseys let the cops talk to him that morning and you believe everything they tell you? you are so gullible. damn!!!! *** annette has quit IRC (Leaving) heh I would SPRINT to wake up my other child!!! Jameson, you HAVE to agree that this is EXTREMELY suspicious! Don't you? *** Dimwit has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer (TCP/IP connection broken)) no No??? At least agree it's odd I think they saw him safe and asleeep and didn't want to deal with him - they wanted to get help Pedro....don't even try to understand the logic...it's insane sounds ok to me jams can´t understand logic where there is non. with all due respect,jams,don't you think it at all indicative that John was overheard in the study making flight arrangements within a short time of "finding" his daughter's body? I think not waking Burke up is odd, but it helped them keep control, they did not have to deal with him in this crisis how can that possibly be explained away? But they'd want to make sure he hadn't been smacked in the head and is knocked out or if he heard anything or if he had seen JBR talking to anyone strange. guess he was afraid of the "SMF" lol People do really odd things in a horrible crisis do we know this person? I wouldn't want to wake him up and tell him that his sister was missing - Anybody would wake the other child up BECAUSE this was a horrible crisis he's a local local dude I wouldn't either, jams, but my need to find out what happened to her would overrule that feeling Right Darby *** Dimwit (java@XXXXX.tnt02.agis.net) has joined #wrow I would wake him up to ask if he saw or heard anything during the night that might help me and the police "catch" the kidnappers.... wb Dim wb, Curious Jams, he was going to find out anyway wb Dim My friend died at home during the night - ambulance came - husband frantic - let their son's sleep through... not so strange to put that conversation off that's different--not a murder (was it?) that's way different then a "missing child" jams... darby, Burke might have become hysterical, they would have to deal with him, and they just couldn't on second thought theres no way in hell I wouldn't wake up my other child and keep them within a foot of me if Burke heard anything - I think they would feel he would have gone to them, good point,rushnut get the money and wait for the call not if he was half asleep or thought he was "dreaming" when he heard it.... my worst fear is one of them being lost They wouldn't even be certain that Burke was all right if they hadn't woken him up true how did they know he was asleep and not DEAD IN HIS BED. I can tell my sleeping child is OK without waking him LOL they breathe Hei Spider you got a point there. Sheeeeeeeeesh They would have been hoping against hope that it was a sick joke and they would have woken Burke up to ask about his friends maybe playing a prank good show Yes, but so do drugged children, breath did Patsy or JR go into Burkes rooom and look at him closely? upon finding the note(intruder theroy) I would bolt to check in on pick up my kid and run to a place in the house i would feel safe yes They would have wondered if he had seen any sick pup talking to JBR recently check his breathing pattern, touch his face to see if he was not flushed Lance - Tracey can talk about Santa saying he would visit JBR. He can talk a bit about Foster... Jameson, if they were GUILTY, then they would not have awoken Burke then i would check every inch of the house with a baseball bat like ya herd a "bump" in the night LOL he laughs at everything...what a jerk Oh - but if innocent they would have? HAHA - if it proves your theory.... good point darby No jams, but it sure bolsters my theory and tends to make yours look, well suspect jams you have kids...imagion if you found a note Yes don't wake up Burke, we have to stage the crime scene and write the note... make sence spider shhhhhhhh nope, not at all. They also let Burke leave the house and go to the Whites - let the cop talk to him alone - these people had no fears, nothing to hide dont wake john either Well, then Burke didn't see the murder or ever see any neglect and abuse if he was left asleep or shooed back to sleep he has nothing to tell I wouldn´t let my son with anybody after my daugther been kidnapped. no way, stays with me. Ha! they wanted Burke out of the house before he did say anything Tracy's voice drops to a dramatic,intimate whisper... If they were putting on a performance, they sure wouldn't want Burke to witness it; hence don't wake him and send him away the cop went to the Whites to talk to him because they didn't wake him up....so he didn't see anything..that's why they let him go to Whites etc. Right Pedro yes spider Yes, to talk to him about the weather. he also took a game and was calm Of course they did go to the Whites and talk to him....that's there JOB no idea whats really goin on jameson, I dont believe that there had been prior vioulent abuse; perhaps sexual abuse tho no Keenan, Demuth, Hofstrom, Ainsworh, Smit... donner blitzen Coffman is wrong on this one Rushnut LOL Twit is the biased one here. Here should practice what he preaches The Governor forced Hunter to call the gj thank god thank gov thank ford Kane wasn't there in June 1998... so much for that relationship jams what relationship? Easy to see why Sue and Twit are such good friends. *** cbreez (java@XXXXX.lvrmr1.sfba.home.com) has joined #wrow the one you said boyeles and coffman were friends LOL hey,cbreeze:) hi lisa =) they are friends - Coffman is on Boyles and is BORG on there. hi cbreeze hi spidey he just said he doesnt like him very much cut the crap on the BORG it's so silly have i missed lots and lots of good stuff? The media lynch is irrelevant anyway. What is relevant is whether or not the Ramseys killed JBR Coffman sure shows THAT funny good one darby thanks Hi Cbreeze the evidence isn't there to convict the ramseys - they had opportunity - nothing more no,not really,go fig...just Tracy nice to see you bayb ding....... round 2 Been a while Breez Smit says there is clear substantial evidence of an intruder - read his resignation letter *** lizzieb (liz@XXXXX.bossig.com) has joined #wrow I did, but what is the evidence? one against many HI Liz Smit's an old fool he was hoodwinked by Patsy and her "southern charm" hi guys hi lizzie =) hi hi lizzieb hi lizzy Jameson, what do you think of Pam Paugh? hi liz hi lizzieb. I hope you brought your axe tonight. Smit can't talk - and he has acted in a professional manner - but when he can talk I think the case will really blow up i did, dimmy Good... lol I like Pam Paugh a lot - we disagree about case issues tracey absolutely drives me insane jameson, do you know something that proves your theory (but can't say)? it will be over when he can talk why can't he talk now...if he has real hard evidence of an intruder he should go on TV and tell it....same with crazy Pam...she says she "knows" who the killer is but is to coy to tell. I can't hardly wait for Smit to talk..........I think Pam Paugh is a beautiful person gag gag He was working for the prosecution - he has conficentiality problems good for the tummy to gag gag? Did Smit share his stuff with you, Jameson? guess he couldn't even tell them what evidence he has, lol no get real..if he passionately felt there was a miscarriage of justice he would shout it from the rooftops. hi Lizz Well, how do you know he has evidence that will blow the case open then/ ? hi pedro ah,"rubbish"...a great word Doesn't tracey realize that snow melts sometimes? I really wish everyone would TALK! Say every secret thing! me too august snows not hereLOL they never will, August If there is an indictment maybe we will get it all during discovery How do you know that Smit has ANYTHING, jams? read his resignation letter Tracey is NUTZ! gee Tracey is getting a little hot under the collar LOL.... Coffman has a 1 track mind He's like a child. I did, jameson, but I still haven't SEEN anything concrete was he here last nite dimwit jovial? jovial...he's a complete ass$%#$ Coffman goes in for the kill, tracey is a gentleman Tracey knows a lot about the film - he did work with it - Coffman is frothing a bit, IMO Gentleman? pshaw.. Tracey is getting frustrated. *** bren (java@XXXXX.ipt.aol.com) has joined #wrow I mean, jameson, you said yourself that Smit has NOT shared his evidence with you. So HOW do you really know he has anything worthwhile? tracey is an idiot Tracey isn't a public debater, so he doesn't come off at his best tracey is being deliberately evasive he has no composure frustrated or flustered so???? impossible to take him seriously Augus... Tracey is stupid... that's why he doesn't come across well. Darby - I have other sources - they support Lou's public statements Beanie :-) Tracey got the Ramesy's to sit for extended interviews and did a whole show when the world was screaming for one sentence from them! You are mimicing all of them Tracey is right about the media lynch in a way, but this does NOT mean the Rs didn't kill their daughter. the flawless one? rofl The flawless one... LOLOL Coffman can't explain why Patsy would do this, or where the DNA came from - jammy you and your "sources" they are becoming so boring Okay, so the other sources, jameson, do THEY know what Smit has? climb up and listen Really, either spit it out or shut up I expect so, Darby oh puhleeze, if Smit had something of substance that would clear the Ramseys, they would be cleared And did they share what Smit has with you, jameson? God now what he's gonna cry LOL I'm not going to ask what it is, jameson, I just want to know if you know what Smit has ? break out the bagpipes he peter pan Values Are we going to hear music in the background soon Well then go home no comment, Darby - not going there LOL, get out the violins this is a hoot lol *** annette (acurran33@XXXXX.wlg.ihug.co.nz) has joined #wrow go back to Fleet Street, Tracey wb Annette hi annette tx babybb hi everyone Wrong constitutionslly? What the hell is he talking about? Not going WHERE? I'm not asking that much. I'm not asking what it is. All I'm asking is if you know something we don't know that will exhonerate the Ramseys dont' forget he comes from England, they have no publicity before or during any trials. it's secret wrong morally, Curious maybe before but there is a gag order when a trial starts.....shut the phuck up Tracey you are a fool yeah, they wait till after the trial to crucify them in the press Is this man a citizen so now everyone on death row is innocent he is a fool. oh,come on,michael (like OJ) he probably thinks OJ is innocent too LOL maybe theyre on death row for a reason. peter boils hehehe Just because 90% think they are guilty does not mean they are innocent maybe THE DID IT..THE CRIME also know as pecker boils hi annette *** bren has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) OH Jerrilyn and the Poz LOL cute couple True about the balance. And it is hard to find people to keep the balance even. what do you mean darby? Oh, get off it, Whispering Dude, there was no snow on the walks Can we have that URL The reason that the media comes across as negative toward the Ramseys is due to the weight of evidence... it's heavily stacked against the Rams... Does Twit want the media to ignore the evidence and NOT report it? Hah just what I said WHAT evidence, Dimwit? Just like the media comes across as negative against OJ, dim - the weight of evidence The transcript is on the TimeLine Right, Lizzie OK for $19.95 you can get a copy LOL...next he will have an informercial LB I mean it's hard to find people who think they are innocent. AND MAYBE THAT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE GUILTY i think probability is a better word "and its hard to find people to keep the balance even" Maybe we are so upset because we feel deep down in our guts they "probably" are guilty... I mean they have people like Pam Paugh and Jerrilyn Merrit to keep the balance even *** moi (java@202.185.233.999) has joined #wrow there are as many on the fence dont forget LOL darby.... hi moi welcome hello Pro-Ramsey people don't talk - the Ramseys haven't asked anyone to talk and the media is vicious. brb Patsy gave the green light Rush ... Ask Twit why he aired the Crock after the Rams told him NOT to air it until AFTER the GJ brb coffee good point lizzie ohhhh the big bad media again...LOL lot's of pro Ramsey's on TV.... thought the Rams gave their friends the grrenlight to speak out Anti-Ram sells, so most media is Anti most i have seen has been balanced Bookstores wouldn't carry the mcLean book - media only wants lynch mob stuff... You can't use the media lynch as the reason that the Rams are innocent I don't see the "anti-rams" doing a TV "documentary" about the "guilt" of the Rams..... anti-rams think it's pro-ram, and pro-rams think it's anti-ram, which usually means a program is well-balanced *** PedroII is now known as Inquisitor Yeah, LEEZA and Geraldo, the tabs, all balanced LOL well, the quality of the writing isnt exactly top notch,jams :) good point Spider Woman Maybe the McLean book is lousy writing that's why they don't carry it. And Jams--was the crockumentary balanced? proof is in the tablois stories, if Pro-ram sold, we would get sob stories about the poor parents Book storesrefused it without viewing it they don't care about the truth at all, just what sells Jameson you are full of crap....Barnes and Nobles has the Mclean book They don't carry it because it would gather dust in the bookshop's shelves, Jams. Get off that Jams, it was pablum, written by an amateur no it does not - has to be ordered by phone but does Barnes and NObles have displays of it? Bull Crap I found it on the web site YEs I know what is in the Barnes and Noble store and I talk to Linda McLean Well, 48hrs, 20/20 and Dateline all gave a lot of Pro-Rams viewpoints. Well, it's easy to offer a book by mail order, can offer any book in print I got it off the web site of Barnes and Noble Books, that´s what is there. doesn't matter who carries what or what the media does... Doesn't make a difference about what happened on Dec. 26th at B&N. Tracey has no credibility at all. Spider, those are the few of so many Your so busy running around yelling lynch mob that you can't see between ;your own eyes but they are the important TV shows, not the tabloid type ones so the bobm story is true No one who isn't BORG has credibility with BORG online *** WhisperingEd (java@XXXXX.denver22.co.pub-ip.psi.net) has joined #wrow Rushnut - what is the rest of the show going to be about? Should the Ramseys get off simply because they've been victims of the media lynch mob? Spider, yes, I noticed, important shows can afford to take the chance good job,ed WB W Ed thanks They should get off because there is no evidence they did it. Thecopsshould find the killer. LOL jammy.....I am not a BORG so cut the BORG crap I told you it was boring yet you continue to use that term when you get frustrated... Whispering Ed, who are you? I used to know I think no, darby, they shhould get off because theyare innocent Jams... you seem to be having a meltdown. Whatsa matta, Jammsie... things not going well for your child-murdering friends? I'm taking a short break Good job Frank. Tracey is an imbecile. good August, so i wish y'all would get off of the media lynch thing and get back to what happened Dec. 26th Dimwit you are an insult nomeltdown, not at all, Dim Who am I? Existentially speaking? spring meltdown... that is your name, "taking a Short Break? no.. HeHe Yes, Whispering Ed. That's exactly what I meant. lol Who are anyone of us --- Really? Ohhh I remember now!! Is this show interesting to you folks? yes we all wear masks, ED ... I am the walrus... its interesting in here hahaha -- not me. I am really Whispering Ed. hey there but Jammy you went on national TV and blew your mask....you are now public property you don't whisper, Ed an evocative name,whispering ed...vaugely macabre yep - that I did - went on national TV - Mrs Brady fell off, eh she never stays scary...lisa national and international TV all over the world. yes, all over the world Whispering Ed=he who changed his mind and is getting a lot of flak for it----RIGHT? millions of viewers so you can't be called just a simple housewife on the internet now can you you are a media "star" Jams shutdown J-7 for privacy issues... now you can't keep hir off of TV. Go figure. Go here: and type in Linda McLean and hit search: http://shop.barnesandnoble.com/BookSearch/results.asp?userid=22YAKAQ44D&mscssid=4MA120A4TJSH2J1T00CGNDBH7JE3DUN6&pcount=0 *** rushnut is now known as Matthews_now hi That is the barnes and noble site and the book is there Didnt get you here Jams sorry Now eat your words Jameson Tracey is dishonest about his own documentary. He isn't telling the truth. oh? I'm surprised they carry it...only because the writing is terrible Agreed, Whisp Then they make the call for you - the book is not in the stores is rushnut a Lance wanna-be? Tracey will never admit he is wrong about anything -- he just laughs WEll learn what your are talking about before you quote stuff hes a hyenia.... That book has been listed with Barnes and Noble for months hey ed... you didn't ask him about the tapes he wouldn't give over ed He argues like 1 third grade child. get off the comp, ed annoying laughter --- he's *BLEEP* so he tries to laugh his way out of a tight spot even looks like one...pointy teeth and sneaky eyes Ed, are you going to call in? bye! *** Matthews_now is now known as rushnut back I said the "Bookstores wouldn't carry the book" why don't you go on the air with ed,darby? we really enjoyed yall last week They don't carry what won't sell, Jams. lflowers, I will if you will Bull crap, color it however you want... scroll back and read it.. *** WhisperingEd has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer (TCP/IP connection broken)) *** Questioner (java@XXXXX.attcanada.net) has joined #wrow hi Q hi q HI Q Hi Q!!! hi everyone - I couldn't resist Hi Q You missed Tracey the Twit, Q. WEll then learn.... check out the web site before you start saying people are the lynch mob and major book companies won't carry the book I'm heartbroken LOL no no, I mentioned the walk being clear wasn't my question When there is snow on the front yard, the side yard is often clear - I photograp[hed that myself and posted it on the TimeLine *** Granny10 (Headache55@XXXXX.ipt.aol.com) has joined #wrow yes, Jameson Hi Granny hi Hi granny *** faye (java@XXXXX.ipt.aol.com) has joined #wrow and it snowed early in the morning on the 26th - likely after the killer left the house did you photograph it that night Jam? Christmas 25-26 1996? Hi qtnr I was told it snowed at 2 am *** cbreez has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) picture 2 days later would still show yard pattern *** Inquisitor is now known as Pedro I heard that it had snowed much earlier than 2 am I photographed the melting pattern last December - that didn't change - and I have seen other photos of the house from 12/1996 I would have thought the "killer" was still in the house at that time...it took quite a while to do the murder? come on the air jams with someone who hates her? why do you say that august it's just like when Tracey tried to insinuate that Jeff Ramsey was present at the house that morning and could contradict Richard French August... Coffman treats Jams very gently. well snow melts differenty on different occasions Jams..please I live in a snowy part of the country and it's different every time...maybe some similar but never the same did mr. frank take a picture of his own that day? Someone just said Jameson, and I hate this man, who was that? Jameson, did you photograph it when it was way below freezing during and after the snow? rush - answer the phone Is the snow the only thing he bases his argument on When had it last snowed before the 25th? lol Frank should get a real job Faye, the point is that Tracey said there was almost no snow in the yard, and showed a picture of the yard from the day after. what is the caller's name? and that is what frank is going on about geez because Tracey lied he said rensler? snow melts...during the day...I have seen lots of snow and then a warm day and half of it or more can melt Tracey is the one who made it an issue the weather is quite schitzophrenic in Boulder seems like frank can only tell about other lies what about his we were talking about the snow in the yard, faye I under stand that who is Jeff Ramsey? john's brother john's brother thanks Jeff was not there, in Boulder ok hasn't been mentioned very often right? Jams speak, up Jams turn up the sound,Dan jams speak up a bit LadyBug, he hasn't Jammy and her soft little voice LOL Not when it's below freezing turn up the sound when had it last snowed??? before the 25th??? *** cbreez (java@XXXXX.lvrmr1.sfba.home.com) has joined #wrow That was a year later that she took pictures I heard from a Boulder eyewitness that it snowed and stuck on the 25th around 10-11 I heard that also darby am, pm? I was living in Boulder at the time,but I cant even remember darby that would depend on locations right? pm what do you mean, LB different areas around Boulder may get light snow ...others may not perhaps, LB, but Boulder isn't that big does Frank have any comments about Fleet White's arrest? A bit dysfunctional to allow that, isn't it? wind, buildings, shrubs, trees etc *** snowwolf (java@XXXXX.tx.us.ibm.net) has joined #wrow I recall the reporter from denver julie haden questioned the snow and she saw it but said she had to go with the story did you heaar that wb,snow wb snowwolf wb Snow hi snow hi snow thanks, hope i can stay connected this time hi snow I thought you melted sheesh, nobody wants to believe the ramseys did it, lol LOL LOL she's a jerk..she twists things to suit herself and her own agenda. lol, ladybug(: it's not a matter of not "wanting to believe" DNA is deteriorated... that's why it doesn't match (sigh) exactly there's simply no other logical explanation right - i would much rather some ted bundy type have done it body wiped off....so not DNA on body. I agree Frank sounds so nice now, you are right, Curious we believe the Ramseys did it because that's what the evidence tells us...period. Hi snow anybody who believes the rams did it from whaat we know pleeze don't ever sit on a jury if you are that easily influenced i don't KNOW that they did it, but the probability in my mind is that they did - i don't know enough to convict okay faye (I'm getting tired) rushnut: about fleet! bubble bubble I'm always right, Auggie Night everyone *** whoami (java@XXXXX.nycap.rr.com) has joined #wrow nite night BB Nite Baybb hello people *** BayBB has quit IRC (Bye Y'all) *** LadyBug has quit IRC (Ping timeout) nite BayBB whoareu whoareyou, whoami? *** LDBug (java@XXXXX.cen.quik.com) has joined #wrow i am whoami ill ask him august thanks by the way im very much my own person well, you are changable what does that mean darby? rushnut,could you have Lance call me? Well I'm getting tired...goodnight all por favor k *** whoami (java@XXXXX.nycap.rr.com) has left #wrow gracias nite, SW(: nite SW  nite, spidey night,Snow I mean Spider calling now night all... I don't know how you guys do it! It's 11:30 yere and I'm tired *** SpiderWomen has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) faye, just that I'm getting sleepy. I think the Rs did it based on a whole slew of things, but I'm too tired to enumerate them again right now. thanks...just got off the phone 17 hr days are great the commercials are LOUDER Faye,Lance wants you to call in nite snow Rush... askJams or Frank how an intruder could have gotten into the house on a winter night, and left no moisture on the floors? Good Dimmy good one next dimmy, you should call in again - I lost my sound last night and didn't get to hear you): Darby you aare welcome to your belief but like I said you should never sit on a jury pleeze promise the world I think Frank has had his fill of me. an if darby promises to never sit on a jury, would you promise to sit on your hands? =) lol, thanks cbreez, took the words right out of my mouth good one dimwit Thank you faye (about being welcome to my belief) I guess I hope you never sit on a jury either-- lol cb What could I possiblly offer to this conversation for Lance (Flowers)? ? he wants you to call in...I'm sure you' Darby doesn't weigh much, she couldn't do much harm if she sat on a jury(: d have something interesting to say *** deanner (java@209.252.122.999) has joined #wrow an intruder who planned, might easily bring other shoes =) snow lol snow THANK YOU SNOW!!! (: darby The intruder was a ShoeBootie... wore one SAS shoe, and one HiTek boot. probably house slippers you are mrs.Lake, Faye,yes? lol, other shoes, along with the note, the bear, the stun gun, the tape, and the rope lflowers, that same thought occurred to me Dim ,the intruder was levitating hi, deanner(: August what about his socks Excuse Me? Flowers lol Pedro Hi snow :-) A true mistic experience.lol Lake...the one with the William Faulkner voice.He is your husband,no? Santa could levitate, Pedro well, if he left a shoe print, and didn't bring in mud and water, then bringing other shoes is logical took it with *** phantom (java@XXXXX.ispmodems.net) has joined #wrow Well, he has reindeers no? The intruder remembered the rag, the rope, the duct tape , but FORGOT the ransom note and the murder weapon! hi, phantom(: hey invisible bout time and a change of shoes, darby *** jameson has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer (TCP/IP connection broken)) Hi snow,LB, and all hi phantom I forgot hi cb no stocking feet ...rag to pocket a souvinier only 30% of info is true!!! My husbands name is not lake or William well, when I go out in the "snow country" I often bring "other shoes" *** jameson (jameson245@XXXXX.abts.net) has joined #wrow All of Jam's info is true. Why would the intruder FORGET the murder weapon and the ransom note? no Mrs lake was quite pleasant wasn't she yes I liked both of them strangle??? what did the intruder forget? wb, Jameson(: Mrs. lake was wonderful, but who would marry Lake? wb jameson dropped something on the keyboard... Whay are they selling off assets? thanks hope it wasn't liquid to pay expenses about to come up with new investigation Mrs Lak e is sure glad she got him before we did I am sure liquid assets??? jameson, if they have evidence of an intruder, why wouldn't they publish it and save themselves a trial? Good job, Frank I thought the new investigators had come forward and volunteered their time thanks, frank NO not publish it!!! Was that tc? topcat ? frank coffman, p2 ok,thanks Thank God he is gone He is the most obnostious person other than the guy ffrom NY i didn't see you come in - hi p2 hi liz takes one to know one i guess obnostious? faye? tsk tsk,faye I knew P2 was coming ob what? *** jameson has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer (TCP/IP connection broken)) okay which peer reconnected her? Jameson is dropping things again IS that dim here AGAIN? :-) No... I left 5 minutes ago, P2 lol lol Dim he's gone, p2 OK, anyone have any comments about Fleet, why would he allow this to happen? Well, take your shadow with you next time.....ha ha ha? So I don't have spell check I still have an opinion but if my spelling bothers you I will sign off *** jameson (jameson245@XXXXX.abts.net) has joined #wrow Fleet has an aversion to appearing in court never faye. you would be missed Allow WHAT to happen, Auggie? no,it's not the spelling...the person you refer to is in the chatroom your spelling doesn't bother me, but your personality does, lol wb jameson can you guess who he is? allor himself to be ARRESTED! jams, quit dropping things(: faye, I just didn't know what you meant... honest! Well, I didn't get to finish but they want to move on... there you go, jams we will rotate i think it's open mile at this point,jams open mike,i meant yup Like I said do I bother you with my expressing my self who who is? Lisa faye, I make spelling mistakes all the time..I wasn't trying to cause you trouble Dave *** mimi has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) faye, I'm not really that mean I'll talk case with Jams if hir will stay on air. *** mimi (java@XXXXX.san.rr.com) has joined #wrow darby is a sweetheart(: Go for it Beanie no she's not, darby's a very nice person that's worth staying up for, dimmy coll Dim Thx, snowwolf You would be a great debate welcome(: yes,call,Beanie...you wanted to last week Thx lizzie may as well do it yes do call Dimmie Please do call Beanie you keep saying he jams *** Brightlight (java@XXXXX.ipt.aol.com) has joined #wrow but be nice...okay? please hi, brightlight(: hi Brightlight hi BL = ) I have a hard time expressing why I feel this way but who is this darby ? I'm always nice, Flowers. I want a promise that Jams will not run away. hi brightlight If she wasn't wiped, then where did the lint come from? Maybe they don't know what a "horse" looks like? Hi everybody... I'm not jams...therefore I cant make that promise Yes You really are Beanie, you are great on the radio /whois mimi hi bright *** Pedro has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer (TCP/IP connection broken)) who is Questioner? *** Brightlight has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) Jameson's problem is she sounds like a parrot Curious--I'd love to hear you debate. Darby who are you faye, I'll tell you if you tell me who you are *** Brightlight (java@XXXXX.ipt.aol.com) has joined #wrow she talks so low that I have to turn up my sound, and then I get blasted when somebody else talks faye, I'm just darby Faye don't you remember I post as darby faye, no, should I remember you? you did say it on the air jams Somebody indicated you were the guy from NY just now remember No that's Darnay I hoped you would really *** Granny10 has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer (TCP/IP connection broken)) lots of people walked in the next morning, they might have obliterated last nite's tracks *** Questioner has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer (TCP/IP connection broken)) Frank and Jams is an alley I probably would't have said that she sure isn't from the South LOL *** Pedro (java@XXXXX.arctic.net) has joined #wrow Of please, Jams! LOL wb, Pedro(: wb pedro are you calling in,Beanie? Hi Pedro Sure... I'll call. hi, evening bbl... *** Dimwit has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) great! kewl we'll see what happens what happens to what Great what happens with this phone call Beanie is really good on the phone yes he is ha ha Whaat is the # 1-800-976-9590 Tell Lance to call Beanie I can barely hear The note set the scene, told you what everything was suposed to mean. Thanks I'll call later $118,000 -- Patsy wanted the writer to appear to know things about John and his bonus amount Patsy wanted the writer..? Dan..jams is going to have to speak up I'm getting tired, phantom. Patsy wanted US to think the writer....etc. That's ok darby, that's what I knew you meant... :-) darby you still did't say who you wre Is Curious on the line yet? Thanks phantom faye, what do you mean? if i have to explain never mind oh well geez faye, darby is a known poster, and she says she is that darby, why are you going on and on? I post at JW http://www.newsday.com/ap/rnmpnt0i.htm That is the website Dave !!! Yo Dave please I am a little slow I guess http://members.aol.com/rebdomine/ That is the directory he is talking about thanks, CandyRose(: *** Brightlight has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) *** Brightlight (java@XXXXX.ipt.aol.com) has joined #wrow last URL NOt Found The ransome note was the excuse for the murder. excuse? did I hear right? Lake on the phone? yes, Lake a jail map available @ http://come.to/colfax sure ...part of the fantasy yes darby that's lake's voice In the murderer's mind? and a great voice it is takes a little getting used to lol rushnut...is Beanie on the line? Southern? somehow, I'm surprised The murder itself was the hot shot murder of the century. That's the voice of a gentleman, how'd it get in Lake's throat? LIsa tell Matthews to call Beanie I cant...I'm not in the studio *** HeyJudd (Headache55@XXXXX.ipt.aol.com) has joined #wrow is this the tennessee williams portion of the show? =) hi, Judd(: does anybody know what the blue writing is lol cbreez music for Lake lol no,we'd need Patsy here to play Blanche DuBois ROFL!! hi snow flol zzzzzzzzzzzz uh oh hello...rushnut? beanie on hold What about the massacre? k He was putting me to sleep another one bites the dust I want to hear Beanie 5 min I would call in about it, LB, but I still tear up every time I think or talk about it. *** mimi has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) *** mimi (java@XXXXX.san.rr.com) has joined #wrow me too, snow who is beanie pleeze let us hear from this person I can;'wait a poster on BN *** Brightlight has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) He has a wonderful way of talking once you hear him you won't forget him, faye can't this person just call Right Cbreeze Is beanie coming up next? anyone? hope so Hello is somebody checking on this....Rushnut..... Lance......Beanie is suppose to be calling in !!! how do you send PM's in here. I can't even get everyone's names to show up on the list and can't scroll down I can't wait to hear yes beanie and jams I think he's on the line,auntie you gotta love it not togather whoops Great Not together....bummer why not? Beanie is perfect for a nice quiet sensible debate Snow, did you get that PM from me? yes, but I couldn't answer it): what does beanie take as a position on the case patsy did it He is Anti-Ram I'm not sure how one answers, but I just double clicked your name (on the right) Does beanie talk like he posts? same way but need to make sure it says TO MEMBER not at all, darby Certainly not someone who has done much research on his own Dary no much calmer he's very organized and eloquent well, that's a relief! imagine that LOL who is organized? Who is that? beanie talks totally different - wish he posted the way he talks Yes he is so different talking who picked the joni mitchell i wonder YIKES he died I like joni mitchell me toooooooo aging children I am one Poor kids beanie is nice in real life I know, it is so horrible Like that music The survivors will mark the end of their childhood with today. yes true, deanner in the alley Compare it to people dying of poison, instead of bullets.And everyone dying. That's what Jonestown was. Thought you said beanie was next jams is about to sign off, i think Get off of it Jameson looks like ot.dont go Jams She is a broken record oh, here we go i do wish she'd stay on...I don't think it'll be all that bad I keep losing audio Sounds like she has a recording device attached to her phone she's chosen not to, lisa? happens all the time august yes shell stay Yes it is only one of her and 100 of the ones who choose the other side really? I hope so,rushnut she is hoarse and can't talk any louder She always talks like this no, it's only jams and beanie. sounds pretty fair to me alley yes,it'll be fine yes very sweet voice but cant talk loud No way did Pat write the note i think beanie will behave himself Yes, she always sounds like this. I was referring to the obvious compression of her voice what??? ??? cant hear him ??? Or the other way around. why not gaye? we have to adjust as they speak to make up for jams soft voice faye yes,he sounds like he's very nice in person For the anti-rams. yes he does we can't let both on at the same time or it warps the sound Beanie is great Nice voice does't make you right -snowwolf- (Private) tell me if you get this please(: like that sure it does, faye no no way not necessary do you really beleive that , well maybe you should hear my voice and I could sure change your mind, darby kids will kill kids, though Oh, I forgot to put a :-) after that Did any one of you hear Shiller imply that there were other people in the house that night jams get a new phone!!!! The note only had semi-personal info that could have been overheard by anyone. Or take off the recording device, jams or get an amplfier Darby what does that mean try this if you like Sarah McLachlans http://www.amazon.com/sarah-exclusive What a treat! *** mimi has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer (TCP/IP connection broken)) *** Matthews has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) i think darby had her tongue planted firmly in her cheek, faye. she was joshing :-) is a smiley face (tilt your head to the left and you'll see it) oh yeah lol Yes you are right cbreez does sarah have a new album out, LD? like I am reading the ransom note can you still call them albums? *** whoami (java@XXXXX.nycap.rr.com) has joined #wrow Yes...cbreez it "Mirrors', howerver you can download 2 of her songs Mystery and another full songs Print out a copy of the note, faye. I heard you could, cbreez hello how are you peoples brb wb who hi, whoami(: i'll check it out, LD. thanks hi who They are wonderful WhoAmI, is that you, Lake? lake who are you talking about lake george guy no CBREEZ AND LD!!! Sarah Mclaughlin---I adore her no, WhoLakeSayLakeDatLake http://come.to/colfax who Where is Beanie she's wonderful Love sarah too httpL//come.to/colfax absolutely beautiful voice http://come.to/colfax thanks LB for the info download that player it is great we do agree I am surprised you will love it moi Where is beanie Great :) anybody wanna chat Not personal? whoami? *** Pedro has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer (TCP/IP connection broken)) good point Here we go...block There are already plenty of people speculating that the Ramseys are guilty faye, I have all of her cds Did she loose her voice And that think they are innocent. lots you will love MIRRORS she will if she gets too loud Absolutely 100% these parents did not murder this child take my word for this bye peoples g2g why do you say that, faye? 100% come n faye faye....I've heard those words before (absolutely 100%...) *** whoami has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) Let's let Jameson speculate, if she's right she will help find the killer, if sh's wrong, then there are plenty loofing our for that end looking faye, I have doubts, but, I still think they are innocent. Darby how long have you colleced she acts as devils advocate there are two sides to every cion faye colleced? about a year, faye coin k Sarah Mclaughlin cds--once you hear one, you get them all reallly? on SM? It was given to Sherry Keen Osborn i heard her a few years ago... about 7.... while driving. pulled over and called station to find out who she was ST referred to an infamous note writer...I think he meant Patsy Goodnight everyone Darby if we agree on the music surely you know they did not kill their precious child nite judd nite, hey. nite Judd nite, Judd(: Nite Judd night judd *** HeyJudd has quit IRC (Leaving) faye, I tend to think they did SPEAK UP JAMS NO don't want voice tomorrow You are just a misguided person can you prove this to me we had an intruder What theory is she killed her for wetting the bed? okay, jams just said that if Patsy's DNA was mixed with JBR's blood, then she would believe that Patsy did it... WHAT if that turns out to be true? Why would you wipe the battery clean if it were your own flashlight you would't faye, if you were an intruder you would take the flashlight with you when you left Well, is Dim willing to think that they are innocent? you might forget it darby why should I look at the Ramseys without proof? Good statement Beanie The ramsey didn't throw anybody under the darn bus it was the police Why didn't they wake Burke up? Why didn't they cooperate with BPD? *** mimi (java@XXXXX.san.rr.com) has joined #wrow Why did the ransom note sound like Patsy? at jams darby I'm fading, have to work tomorrow, goodnite So he could see his sister's body? Or just be afraid because she is missing? didnt sound like PR to me nite, august Why was Burke's voice on the tape and they lied about it? nite august nite August nite, August(: big day today later Why was there pineapple in her intestines whey Rs said she slept the whole time? yes, nite No one saids for sure that it IS his voice. *** August has quit IRC (Leaving) darby you are right but when is the last time you personaly wiped your battery off really Why would the batteries be wiped? darby do YOU KNOW it was pinapple??? I wipe the ends off of the batteries often. hello women use gloves to handle batteries they do? yes I dont I have oily hands, so, when I put new batteries in.... I dont either neither do i I'm not sure how to use PM (to the poster who tried) i don't either shes okay now someone who didn;t want their prints on it certainly not the ramsy can do NO, I don't believe that Nono NO No it was me darby No It is rea It is real do you want your questions directed at jams or beanie? the website is a hoax??? what website? penny did it that AOL one? =) yes that's fine the trenchcoat mafia one did you hear some prank caller on msnbc this afternoon call in and say that howard stern was the person doing the shooting, because nobody would listen to his show? yes it is a hoax *** Pedro (java@XXXXX.arctic.net) has joined #wrow i was wondering what penny was doing these days the website was posted AFTER the shootings wb, Pedro I read the first one here but the second one was NO GOOD Lizzie, I saw something like that posted on BNF yes hi evening I am so sure all of you wipe batteries pleeze i'm married to a virgo... i can imagine it, faye =) remember, lizzie, someone pulled crap like that when Princess Di was killed. Geez, that just pisses me off!!!! HOw many times is she going to stab the man?? whatever... what ever it takes gad, jameson misrepresented herself to all of us faye, Patsy wiped them because she didn't want BPD to know that she used it as murder weapon; She wanted them to think an intruder brought it in, and they would never believe it if her prints were on the batteries me too, cbreez - you have my sympathies - lol LOL Geeez, we all thought she was a man in the beginning i know, she came across as a friend and as a male faye the real question is why would an intruder think to wipe them? some still think Jameson is a man call her hir i've never wiped batteries me either people who misrepresent themselves for the getgo are not to be trusted i have to go with darby. there would be no need to wipe batteries when it would be much cleaner to take it with you and then blame it on everybody else we are all guilty then unless you couldn't leave the house lizzie you are so right well hir writes like a man Did she wipe the outside ofthe flashlight too? Her early writings were very manly writes facts ...is that manly? then clearly makes it known her impressions And there was no blood... why do you think it was the weapon? Darby the police acturally picked the flash light up thought it was one of theirs and when the flash was missing they discovered they had it and immediately cleaned it off I don't know annette Everybody is guilty of thinking Jams was a man She pretended to be a man ssooooooooo? jameson didnt want to go public faye, but I doubt if the BPD cleaned off the batteries she out and out lied, ladybug -- you don't think that is consequential? HA and she did it for months LDBug, were you on BNF in the beginning? what about did she lie? They just want a win, procecute anybody. she said she was a father and husband YES I was when I could stand that idiotic territory usually stayed in open and in Buffs LD, I just saw logs of her chats that were total lies she misrepresented herself totally jameson did go public only when she tought she had signifacent evidence soooooooooo? So she should admit she was pretending You are right they wanted to make sure their were no prints do you blame them think about it I am 97 too well ladybug, when people lie to me i tend to not give them much credibility after that hhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa she accused all of us of lying, when it was her I'm with you, lizzie really i mean, duh, ladybug faye, an intruder would have taken it with him yep I say duh too I wish somebody would ask her on the air if she did pretend to be a man LD, lizzie's right. right down to saying that her daughter liked to wear her shirts when she was sick... as in a man's shirt... is that true? who cares what her gender???? why is that improtant shes already said it before i think Lizzie laways speaks commonsense gender is not important. Lying is. aand what of the IM POSTERS??? If he had broght it, if he had used it..if he didn't want it left for some reason..if he just forgot it. gender isn't the issue. it's the unsolicited extrapolation It is important LD because she is pretending she didn't do that You got it the intruder would have do really think the flashlight is the weapon is the fash light, I think not recall you didnt have to register at that time She is pretending Foster made that up that she was a man Foster is entirely another subject next time candy he is his own subject promise Bless these kids And she takes every opportunity to continue to stab him in the back faye we're going in circles. The batteries were wiped and it matches her head injuries. now candy.... So would you ? here goes yes, that's a hard way to learn that you arent immortal): Ladybug, if gender wasn't important, why did she present herself to be a male? night all nite phantom nite phantom its what you wanted to hear *** phantom has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) NO NO they said could be night, phantom no it wasn't, ladybug! oh brother there you go help me jeeeezuz so the imposter was jameson? ALSO? Answer it faye, well...it looks even MORE like it was the murder weapon since the batteries were wiped good grief, ladybug - did we sit on BNF waiting for somebody named jameson to post and hope she was male? Could have been a rolling pin *** Pedro has quit IRC (Ping timeout) But you pretended to also be a man rofl I believe it was a toe of a boot not a flashlight jameson is lying Yes you did she has always stuck with the non gender thing your wife so? here are the answers and i belive her she said she was many times brb well, then why were the batteries wiped? and she said it in chat she is lying Please forget the batteries I told you whaat the deal was with that believe me I don't lie nite snow I say forget the batteries too Well she officially told a big lie on the air..... I can't stand anymore of hir lies i'm not leaving yet(: Let me ask this...WHAT would it take, faye, for you to believe the Rs did it? Honest question. HOW> Jameson...you showed your colors tonight no i did not - check I am! :-) I explained that they didn't witpe the batteries they were wiped by I nite, deanner(: take care(: yes, maybe so - i was honest tonight HOW do you say jameson lied on the air??? I want to know! puhleeze okay, faye if an intruder wiped them, why would he do that? Jameson, my opinion of you just went down 10 more pegs after that lie what lie? A lot of cold had eidence I haven't seen why is it such a big deal ladybug, because i was there, in chat, and heard her say she was a father and husband hm. Maybe I'll stay Snow, she said she never said she was a man Like what faye, I mean would you have to see it on video? She said she never pretended to be a man .........and did she owe you something different??? thanks, CR(: No,m she owes me nothing good point ladybug, the point is that she is a liar tell me what she EVER owed you? CR she did! she owes me nothing; she is a liar, tho But now I know whethr to ever trust her Ask the intruder why he was afraid for his prints to be on there and you will have your ansere ha h a *** VeryDim (java@XXXXX.tnt02.agis.net) has joined #wrow who can you trust that's my whole point, ladybug - she is a liar The fact that Jameson represented herself to be a man directly affects her allegations against Foster my kids lie to me OH my God! Sorry... I WAS Dim tonight. faye, if the intruder was afraid he would have taken the flashlight with him! we all lie sometimes you were great, dim Dim you were GREAT! and this is the net hi beanie.... thanks for making the call Not a vedio but alot of evidence I didn't lie - but isn't the great professor supposed to be harder to trick??? But she is using that lie to discredit and ruin another human being Jams closing lie I was not allowed to respond to. dimwit thank you you were a gentelman yes rushnut ...you are right ...do you all think I am a LadyBug??? Dimmie you are very articulate Good Grief! i'm not talking about foster, jams - i'm talking about you misrepresenting yourself as a man he always is Thanks rush deanner hit the nail on the head why the discrepancies are relevent Okay, faye, like what kind of evidence? What would do it for you short of a confession? Lady bug yes I thought you were I said repeatedly I would not give personal info - age sex, religion didn't matter - you wanted to think I was male that was you, not me Forget it annette you now know different! piont jams Tell me what it takes in court do you know and the whole time you talked in great detail about your son and your family life, jams so don't tell me you said you wouldn't give personal info - you volunteered tons of personal information at first you wanted a story maybe lizieb?? most people didn't, by the way Rush... Tell Dave that webpages can go up in a matter of minutes, and Drudge may well have been the victim of a hoax. no ladybug, i was there to talk case - jams volunteered personal information i didn't give out personal information at all like 'Days of our lives' ? "jameson_ - 05:50pm Jan 2, 1999 MST (#18 of 22) http://members.tripod.com/~jamesonTimeLine LOL - this really IS funny. I don't think you are mad because I lied about my personal stuff, I think you are mad because I did it well. Like everything else I do. "jameson_ - 05:50pm Jan 2, 1999 MST (#18 of 22) http://members.tripod.com/~jamesonTimeLine LOL - this really IS funny. I don't think you are mad because I lied about my personal stuff, I think you are mad because I did it well. Like everything else I do. "jameson_ - 05:50pm Jan 2, 1999 MST (#18 of 22) http://members.tripod.com/~jamesonTimeLine LOL - this really IS funny. I don't think you are mad because I lied about my personal stuff, I think you are mad because I did it well. Like everything else I do. Remember saying that Jameson !! funny fun i saw it Woah CandyRose, you are good. Oh yeah - I said if you push I will lie - and eventually I did - and from that you figured I was JAR??? LOL "jameson_ - 07:01pm Feb 23, 1999 MST (#9 of 14) http://members.tripod.com/~jamesonTimeLine All fiction - created for a very demanding audience." "jameson_ - 07:01pm Feb 23, 1999 MST (#9 of 14) http://members.tripod.com/~jamesonTimeLine All fiction - created for a very demanding audience." LOL Remember saying that Jameson???? yep Whaat is the deal with this candyrose person wow I am sick of her lies likes games faye that was superior chat skill you seem to be stuck on her web site jameson volunteered information in the beginning - nobody pressed for information, in fact, it was awkward sometimes because she gave so much personal information hardly a game These are not games they are proof Rush ...The media is way behind in their knowledge of the internet... this hoax webpage should be a media wakeup call to get up to speed on what the internet world is/can be. but you are stuck You wanted - demanded - a victim so I gave you one... no doubt - after months of telling you personal info was not important and telling you I would lie if pushed - but this conversation is dead - long over. Dim--can you tell me what the hoax was? NOBODY DEMANDED A VICTIM boy I would not want some of you trying to nail me, please remembe this is about a precious precious child you're fantasizing, jams What is this "demanded a victim" crap? *** mimi has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) over and out lizzie But the logs were edited, posts made in my name when the forum was not secure that doesn't even make any sense *** VeryDim has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) *** mimi (java@XXXXX.san.rr.com) has joined #wrow they were NOT edited, puhleeze like tha one about my wife dying.... stupid faye we DO know that i know that wasn't true, that was a fake post whatever - get over it - Jameson, is exactly because of this that is is difficult for myself to have faith in believing anything you say even if it it is one day to be the truth but that log was totally the truth lots of them were fake i will if you ever admit YOU have lied about it, and not the 20 plus other people BJ - I don't care one bit if you believe me - not a bit *** DimWit (java@XXXXX.tnt02.agis.net) has joined #wrow darby what do you need from me to prove they are inocent I have seen your handiwork and I wouldn't want you as a friend - so why shoule I care if you are impressed by me? an intruder would do it, faye yes there were some posts out there that were fake, thta I will accept but they were few and far between and you can tell which ones are fake oh puhleeze, jameson, i don't flame you there is no intruder So faye tell us who did it exactly, faye people play on the net.....so what show me parents who camp out at the police and never leave in an effort to solve the murder of their precious little girl I don't care about making impressions. YOu are the one trying to sell yourself to be believed show me parents who ARE angry about it why dont we just post under our real names... so why should anybody believe jameson? about anything? we are all lying Remember that Jameson, you are the one trying to sell yourself to be believed rushnut exactly speak for yourself, rushnut I am not selling myself - I am just what I am show me parents who would never even THINK of appearing on TV until the murder was solved no you are coming to jameson for information rushnut, most people who play on the net do NOT inject themselves into active criminal investigations and demand credibility Thanks RushNut rushnut I've never lied on the net to which they are not entitled Darby those are not facts just impressions I'm not true I documented what I brought to authorities Oh I am sure you did most people enjoy the freedom thou Show me parents who would wake up their other child to find out if he saw or heard anything when the other one was kidnapped jameson, all you do is play games. you can't ever be straightforward about anything. gotta go I didnt did you CandyRose we all have the same opportunity bye rushnut be back up by 5 OK - whatever nite, rush(: bye, rushnut... thanks nite rush bye jams see ya soon Impressons I hope would never convict a hamsandwhich nite rush nite rush nite all nite, everyone - take care(: DimWit what was the hoax you were referring to? nite snow nite snow night, snow =) sweet dreams nite snowwolf and thanks again nite snow nite snow *** rushnut has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer (TCP/IP connection broken)) Darby... the Trenchcoat Mafia website *** snowwolf has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) I really feel sorry for this jam, pereson you all give her a terribletime DimWit, you mean the one that refers to them being gay, etc. Fay, she likes the attention, negative or postivive Oh faye, if you only knew. faye, she started it by misrepresenting herself ages ago and then saying we lied are you sure yes positive bs Beanie, I can't believe they were saying the Aol website thing was a hoax lol jams I haven't seen the site... just heard that it was not their site... but a hoax Theflamers didn't like someone not following theor POV not true, jameson There is many screen names of people on aOL who are from this group so I should not feel sorry for her convictions I saw a site on Drudge they didn't like a strong pro-Ram and they attacked Darby, I looked up all the screen names from the Drudge report CandyRose, we must be having a mass delusion or some sort of 2 year group hallucination in re Jammy it was the manner in which you went about expressing your POV - cloak and daggers, gender confusions, lies, smoke and mirrors they chased off many other pro-Ramse And those screen names all are from this "trenchcoat gorup" Like the uncle of Pasta Jay I haven't seen it, Candy... nor have I heard why it was considered a hoax. I'm flyin' blind here. and a teacher from the school in Boulder Lance just said tonight it was a hoax does this mean I am in trouble because I believe the rams are not guilty they were vicious and most ran i don't know anything about them yes faye Well, it is hard to tell whether the website was legit. And true one can be thrown together in no time. bigtime trouble Look at the old forums - they flamed anyone who disagreed with them - anyone =- Well I guess I better get out of here then Right after the news hit today Beanie, several of us went into the AOL directory and found the screen names and profiles This has been fun. But guess what? I'm exhausted, so good night all. faye you'll be welcomed with open arms at Webb Sleuths nite darby And within an hour those people were changing their profiles night darby... take care =) *** darby has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) nite darby nite all and deleting them, BJ *** deanner has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) Not deleting them, changing them. i wonder how many kids this will ultimately involve nite guys Your on AOL, right cbreeze *** annette has quit IRC (Leaving) nite annette yep Whaat is this profile thing you are talking about does that mean I should be concerned *** mimi has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) yes faye visit my web page also http://members.xoom.com/mychild Lady Bug's Garden of Missing Children My point to Dave was that the media doesn't yet know how to trace website ownership... that they can be easily duped. I don't know anything about this particular site. I will send you the stuff not if you didn't have anything to do with the shootings in colorado, faye thanks! faye - ask the ones who post in favor of the Ramseys - or even real fence sitters - they will remember =- many Ramsey supporters left rather than be called names as I am *** moi has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) cbreez, look this one up, brb nite all *** lizzieb has quit IRC (Leaving) I'm very confused tcoat1 Jams... You are called a liar because you ARE a liar. It has nothing to do with your pro-Ramsey point of veiw. That is one of them i'm on mu husband's computer... not on aol... i'll check any of them tomorrow, tho. want to see them the few that i found just said they had no profiles But they did earloer I copied them i knew i could count on you to have them run down, tho =) Before they changed them what is this profile thing will you send them to my aol address? Colorado shootings I think faye Do I have one dont think so They changed their profiles like within 1/2 hour after I copied wht they were DimWit - you were flamed pretty might for your lies - but you are not pro-Ram so that's OK - - - whatever jams... is ABTS a family owned ISP? let me see if I have it can you answer me someone brb thought I did faye- if you are on aol you can make a profile of yourself I missed it say your interests, etc. Do I have one , do you know I have taken responibility for my death, Jams. You lie every day. You did it on radio tonight. are you on aol? I don't know DimWit....you died ok check your aol screen name. but you would have filled out info of yourself I did not lie tonight I don't know how then would be profile ok faye - if you tell us your aol name we can check. you probably dont have profile Sure you did, Jams. go to aol and click on people no Beanie I did not - then pick check person'sprofile and when prompted put in your own screen name I tried to tell you before i don't know I will have to ask my son tomorrow You misrepresented yourself as a male (wife killed on AutoBahn), and lied about it, Jams. its okay faye Cbreez, it is mailed It has a whole bunch of stuff on it you're the best... thanks BJ =) the others were speaking of th eprofiles of the shooter gang in Colorado ( I think ) I was very careful - never was either sex. Like I said if you don't like that - tough It even has the instructions to make the bombs they used But they deleted everything after I copied it al,l Check the chat logs, Liarson see faye what they are talking about? unbelievable I wish I knew something about this darn thing, I do know I don;t think the rams murdered their precious child it really was and that was early this evening ask Jameson for Jamesons' TimeLine and then read all the news make up your own mind But I sent everything so you will kind of have to separate it i'll check it first thing in the morning The AOL news article is there too my heart is breaking for the parents whose kid never made it to the elementary school. god almighty OMG, I know How horrible Does anybody know whaat I should as my son kid never made it??? can you imagine waiting and waiting... and that point came when they knew they weren't coming yes ask your son what browser you are using Oh I know and the bodies were still in the school still are, aren't they? do I have a browser Yes There are explosions going off here and there what kid never made it to the elementary school?? does it come with the computer from dell should have AOL or IE4 or Netscape or ? you have a dell? So do I i was talking about the elementary school where the kids were being bussed Windows 98 or 95 ? that is what it says and the poor parents whose baby never made it there don't know that story tower? what does it say on the tower? where is the kid? the high school kids I guess 95 how would I know What kid is that cbreeze i guess i was rambling! well mine is written Dimension XPS M200 at the top i just can't get past the image of the parents waiting at the check-in place at the elementary school today just above the CD player Oh I can't even imagine that How horrible for them to know their children lay dead in that school still it's just unfathomable CandyRose apparently you have never had tragedy strike close? LDBug, that is not true, I lost my son Its awful ...painful He was 18 years old i can't imagine how you could ever get past it, LD then you do have an understanding certainly .... I know it very very well i'm so sorry I had to mine was 18 also *** faye has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) both of you yes apparently What I said I couldn't imagin was having my child lay cold in that school and can't get them out even though they are dead okay it is dreadful and can't get to them And they are still there no and nothing you could do yes well, you're both my new heroes Sorry about your child I dont know how many in there 15 last count I can't... don't want to even try to imagine the horror, Candy. awwwww and those in hospital? how are they doing? i haven't heard And there is still part of this 'trenchcoat group' out there *** jameson has quit IRC (Leaving) have the authorities gone into the school? One of them put a posting on the dejanews that this was going to happen has anyone heard if the boy with the spinal chord injury is ok? Any child in that school.. any school... is a casualty seriously? spinal ...was in surgery last I heard but had other injuries spleen and lower extremities they posted it before it happened as a warning? and also arm which they stopped the bleeding No, not as a warning perse, more as a glee I heard that also from deje Let me get the URL for you ... kids minds throughout the country are reeling. what we going to do about it? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tuesday April 20 9:06 PM ET Colorado Suspects Called Outcasts By ROBIN McDOWELL Associated Press Writer LITTLETON, Colo. (AP) - They are called the ``Trench Coat Mafia,'' a group of about 10 students who wear long black coats, keep to themselves and follow shock rocker Marilyn Manson. They had not shown an inclination for violence before Tuesday, according to some of their fellow students at Columbine High School. A reference to the group in last y my 18 year old sat glued to the tv all day. he never does that opps he was transfixed http://x16.dejanews.com/[ST_rn=qs]/getdoc.xp?AN=468757180&CONTEXT=924646229.364052583&hitnum=0 Go there and read the postintg dang, you're good!!! candy is the BEST! you both are Somebody else sent me the URl... I didn't find it on my own you done good, beanie I tried hard to play fair tonight. Your are good Beanie. You have such a way with talking on the phone that you should always be a welcomed guest and you did. i'll say. you keep your thoughts so organized... Yes you do Beanie i'd lose it Better than I could do Me too AND... you have a wonderful speaking voice Yikes? Organized? I always feel out of control. hey were these kids suppose to be gay? Is that what its about? that's what i'd heard, LD what school is next? I don't know if they are guy but let me get one of the profile....brb l k that's the frightening part. as i was watching it today, i could imagine kids somewhere else thinking it was wayyyyy kewl Good point, cbreez yes...this post was Queen Jeff you gotta wonder what their parents are like to lose a child, and know what he did to others how do you live with that one? I assume you are all mostly parents so what you going to do about it? This is one of them: tcoat1<~~~~~~~~~~IS ONLINE RIGHT NOW Member Name: t Location: co Birthdate: ? Sex: Male Marital Status: s Hobbies: killing Computers: ? Occupation: #1 man in trench coat mafia Personal Quote: we are all sick >> i'm never letting them leave the house again...LOL OMG did you locate him? is he in any kind of chat room? round them up! and i'm buying them designer defense uzis =) Here are two more: USER060381<~~~on line Member Name: Location: littleton Co. Sex: Male Occupation: trench coat mafia sledgekey<~~~~~~on line Member Name: Trench Coat Mafia Hobbies: What I dont like, I waste! I will rock your world! I am your apocalypse! Personal Quote: www.neatoelito.org/bastards Teens... kids... are going through tremendous emotional instability ... and a moment of emotional pain can lead to mass tragedy. Parents need to embrace and love... and pay attention to their kids. they must be very pleased with themselves this evening *** LDBug has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer (TCP/IP connection broken)) amen to that how could these kids have weapons like that and explosives in the house without the parents having any clue? Then this tcoat1 changed his profile to this: Tcoat1 has chANged her profile... Member Name: Sex: Female Good question, cbreez i'm surprised they're not being questioned There is a whole group of them So just because 2 got killed doesn't mean the rest couldn't finish it off exactly' I'm sure they are being watched very closely, CB *** ImLDBug (java@XXXXX.cen.quik.com) has joined #wrow got bumped there she is! wb bump thanks what a ride LOL I don't know if the police know about all the ones on AOL but those screen names were on that Drudge report that Matthews said was a hoax But it doesn't look like a hoax no it doesnt if you can find them, they should be looking too these kids all need boot camp who knows what they're up to now more than boot camp scary and a swift boot in the arse! I tend to agree with you about it not being a hoax, BJ Exactly I mean not with me seeing all these profiles and screen names and they all say they are memebers of this group And I have more names they just aired on tv about kids that went to boot long time ago what a change maybe you should send the names to the authorities... just in case they've haven't checked I think somebody else did good isnt there anyone in AOL that monitors? Somebody who lives in Denver area surely there must be No not really not really you get an automated response it is too big yes way too big 16 million or more you gotta wonder what they're chatting about online tonight creeepy BJ... are there any links from that site? It would be interesting (IMPORTANT) for investigators to track who visited the site frequently. so creepy On that one that posted on Dejanews....I looked up the IP address and it shows att.net account in Pensacola you're right, beanie ... hit logs would be useful the web page Beanie? Yes maybe but only if they are arreted? arrested or brought in? Where there was earlier today was ONE AOL directory that had a doc.file in it that contained instructions on how to make the bombs jesus, mary and joseph Yikes And it had one .JPG of a hand drawing of devils and stuff Lord help us al But they deleted the directory disturbed kids on drugs But not before I got all of it copied. LOL that's our girl!!LOL Then I got a web page address and went there CandyRose you going to turn a copy in? Authorities will close the site down very soon. Save what you can, BJ Oh I saved it all. Let me get the web page address have you heard anything more about a third shooter/ I havent I KNEW you would, Auntie! did one commit suicide...or did they shooot him? you could count on it, beanie i think they commited suicide aced themselves http://www.newsday.com/ap/rnmpnt0i.htm has anyone been able to get inside the school? but, there was talk earlier today of a third guy being involved Now I don't know for sure if this is the one they wree saying was the hoax or not But the diredftory was not a hoax. I went there earlier This was the directory: http://members.aol.com/rebdomine/ Ws the directory still there? that one's gone The directory is gone? Yep... gone It was there earlyier. file not found I just read the first one they're coverin their butts not the second one was gone earlier when you posted it Primrose is monitoring brb going to get tea. will bring some for y'all. brb ... thanks CB... I'll have some This is what was on the directory: book3.jpg 19-Apr-1999 23:47 394K book4.jpg 19-Apr-1999 23:47 1K thebook.doc 19-Apr-1999 23:44 29K no...was not there now or earlier when you posted See what time they changed the files ok... Good work BJ when you posted earlier ...it was gone I tried then Well they got rid of it fast yes Primrose The "thebook.doc" file I downloaded and it has instructions on how to make the bomb. on the first one says monitoring That's why saving is soooo important, BJ. You are great The book2.jpg was the one handdrawn pic, I downloaded that too fantastic The book4.jpg was blank hope they dont come after you But the guy came online and quickly changed his profile and got rid of the directory why would it be blank...new plans coming up? Did the other web page come up AuntieBJ in a b'lack trenchcoat? LOL LOL are they in chat rooms when they sign on? Man let me tell you it becomes a full time job just getting shit copied befor it gets deleted LOL They're movin' fast Yes they were today i wonder what their mindset is now' It may be cops or mafia. what kind of chat rooms? chat rooms? if they're remorseful of just more stirred up Is the dejanews posting still there? I shoud go copy it real quick, I didn't do that with angry harley boy? yeah... you should brb The Newsday? she cracks me up!! anything you want, anytime she's got it *** ImLDBug has quit IRC (Ping timeout) She's a whirlin' dervish. LOL ... gotta love her. it's amazing. she doesn't miss a beat Message 1 of 1 help Columbine HS, The Gay Alamo Author: queen_jeff Date: 1999/04/20 Forum: alt.motorcycles.harley more headers author posting history -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greetings Gay Bikers, Today, a bunch of our fellow homosexuals at Columbine HS in Denver Colorado, known as the Trench Coat Mafia, decided that they had taken enough crap from the straight commu boy, did you get lied to this evening that had been abusing them and have decided to take matters into their own hands. We should all applaud their bravery and hope that they can hold out as long as possible in their fight for gay people everywhere. We can only hope that they can turn this into the gay alamo and hold out for 13 days of glory. If they can hold out for two days I think gay bikers everywhere should considering riding into Denver as a relief force to fight alongside them. We need to show solidarity!!! oh jeeezus show solidarity? give me a break And there are a lot of postings in answer to this post well, you two did a great job this evening of backing jams into a corner. you made me proud Wow there are responses? I can't believe she pulled that chit on that Linda McLean book again LOL... and when you showed her proof... she still balked as if she would ever believe the rams could be responsible.... now we know, not even with proof And I knew it was avvailable from Barnes And Noble because I put a link on it from my web page about a month ago to the Barnes and Nobel site you nailed her and she still DENIED She just want to ramp and rave all the time I don't think hir knows how NOT to lie. I know shse still denied it i think you're right And I gave her the barnes and nobel URL and she still was saying you were wrong. did you catch that? hello?????? I know she was she's dug herself quite a nice size hole But what gets me is she has also said it verbally on the radio shows in the past expecially when Linda McLean was on the show She really is a spooky person. Sooo sweet sounding... but pure evil. she gives me the creeps And I went and checked after she said that back in Dec and it was on the Barnes and NObel site She tones that voice when she wants to i think she really believes her own hype... that's the scary part I always have considered hir dangerous... And then she out and out lied on the air tongiht that she never siad she was a man i'm inclined to agree now And If found the original postings from the IRC on the Geraldo Forum the other day she's already reshaping her spin for a pending indictment The IRC chat log when she admitted she was a man you did? i'd love to see em I will send you the page... I saved it in HTML *** lflowers is now known as matthews hi guys how about the other day... with her... DEAL WITH IT crap? Hi there hi there!!!! <----is back home now Kewl. She is a very, very sick person. great show! thanks carrying your computer with you? Hi Spews. Dan brought his from home Tracy was a real gas He didn't impress me hey Bean Bag His what?!!! LOL can you say perpetually flustered? he was a kick in the pants He was boring I realized something though Tracey Twit was an asshole... and always will be. he ... er.... uh..... "danced"? a lot, huh? Sherry Keene Osborne, Michial Tracy and Jameson all sound like parrots LOLOLOLOL LOL They say the idenitial things identical <----thinks Tracey knows they did it ma brady's comment about his teeth really must have bothered him =) think so? Spews... BJ has the goods on thr TC Mafia And I bet if we could hear Smit, he would sound the same TC Mafia? Really Matthews, they are all on AOL LOL, BJ. I agree! she has them all nailed, lance. the woman is amazing and? TrenchCoat Mafia... charming kids really? Lance, One of them came online today shortly after the shootings she saved all of their stuff before they had a chance to delete it and? Candy has the goods And I got into his directory on AOL and copied it and then shortly afterwards he deleted it And then he changed his profile from a man to a woman and shortened it i'm goingto be very very good so that BJ never has to go tracing my steps LOL Then with the help a few others we found several more on AOL <<< sounds like Jams...>> LOL LOL, you're right beanie. oops forum went down. hate it when that happens don't you hate that lol did it go down? it's so predictable now.... what? yep What go down? lol when ws goes down damage control I bet it exploded after tonight, eh? ROFL!! purging... oh yeah, they go down every now and then so they can delete posts Purging, right WS is into Binge and Purge. in a big way LOL lol <---thinks Beanie was VERY polite and repectable tonight You been logged on this chat log the whole time Lance? so, you think tracey knows they're involved? he always is!!! yes he is the essence of decorum why do you say that? Well then you can read about the 'trenchcoat" folks as I posted a lot of it here yes, to being logged on Beanie is always so damn cool on the air oh cool Beanie's nice in person...offfensive as hell on the forums Jameson didn't like it when I caught her in a lie abut the Linda McLean book not at all caused some major sputtering, BJ If and when I am ready to stand up to somebody's bull, I will have documentation ready <----still thinks you guys spend to much time on Jameson Jams is an accomplished liar. Hard for the casual obsever to detect. That's what make hir so dangerous. it's so much fun, tho =) Do you want to REALLY get under her skin??? We would like to get rid of her but she is everywhere Lance Please tell us how would one do that, lance? secrets I think I'm under hir scales already. LOL I know I am I do know how to make her freak out BIG TIME yes and yes... you are snakes, spiders truth? lol smacks of lips sounds Lance... DO NOT PLAY BOTH SIDES! not gay, EVERYONE EVERYWHERE stop posting about her at the same time (even if it were only for three days) simple it would kill her You need to build trust, Lance. Don't phuck it up. I don't play both sides I don't seem to have any sides here I like jams a lot YOU like Sue Bennet a lot or Jameson a lot? we joked about everyone cease posting SUE BENNETT ......... You play both sides, Lance. You have to stop that. they are two differnet people you gotta admire her blind, dogged dedication i guess Jameson (the poster) is nutz I think she is a 'literal" person I love Sue and narrow minded I think she's funny as hell Jameson, on the other hand... Yeah a lot of people laugh at her crazy ass theory =) I believe that Sue has a black trenchcoat in hir closet. Jameson is a bore *** horndawg (java@XXXXX.nycap.rr.com) has joined #wrow You guys make such a big deal over her... you have made her immortal give me a break why bother hi whos out here? no need. she is already a legend in her own mind Is horndog Dave... or Rush... or who? hi horn dawggie And it has went to her mind I thought after she was on 48hrs... THAT everyone would be demystified i'm shawn thoise guys don't have nycap hi shawn hello hey shawn Do you work at WROW, Shawn? no sorry *** horndawg has quit IRC (Web Browser moved off chat page) well bye Why the nycap.rr.com IP? lol was it something we said? LOL that's what I got must have been lol But really, don't you think Tracy was a real bore New York Capitol Road Runner He giggled have the time and got frank mad Tracey is a mindless child i only caught the last part of tracey I liked hearing some of what he said wish i'd caught the whole thing I thought the thing with Frank and him was great I am really behind on getting up the RealAudio... Matthews has to slwowwwwww down on his shows did they talk snow the entire time? Too many too close snow and that damn picture Boy Frank is really outspoken He would be a blast to be married to which pic? the one of john? no I would be at the CU President's door if I were a CU alum... Tracey is stupid. well, which one??? the one of the house the snow I swear if they bring up that pic in Boulder or the Foster chit one more time I am going to puke LOL... no puking! I am tired of the Foster *BLEEP* myself this is a puke free zone It's getting *BLEEP* old I know, like just give her a dagger and tell her to stab him and get it over with meeeeeeeeeeeee tooooooooooooooooooooooo Frank is very restrained... you can almost see the contempt oozing from Frank at times. Oh I know What happened to Chuck? can you blame him? Was he busy with the Denver news story Hello? <-----was reading IM from rush i would guess he was Chuck had to cover Littleton I think the Littleton massacre was a Ramsey ploy to take the pressure away from their upcoming "perp walk". Oh by the way Lance, you could tell yesterday that you were talk (typing) to somebody on IMS and not on the WROW chat room yesterday YOu think it was planned for that Beanie. LOL as silly as it sounds, that thought crossed my mind today. now i know i need short term, intensive therapy! Those Ramsey's will do anything... *** rushnut (java@XXXXX.ipt.aol.com) has joined #wrow yeah... I was typing to Linda Eng in MAlaysia hiya rush! Probably a HalHaddon trick or Bynum LOL, CB. I need long-term care. good morrnin Good job rush ok, i do too. i just couldn't say it hiya cbreez she couldn't get in so I was talking to her about the show da nile and all tanx dimwit Oh I don't care who you were talking to, just want to let you know I could tell and dan IM'd me a couple of times aren't you guys exhausted? Tough job, eh rush? or is the post show rush? post show rush nah hehehee i got it made being a west coaster we were just joking about that at dan's after the show cough cough cough cough It would make me more nutz than I am now, rush whaaaaa :9 :( me too will start on guests for buz in ythe mornig lance WBUZ -all the buzz all the time. (Sex and Drugs……and a little bit of Rock and Roll.) yeah Woody Harilson nah, i just always thought i was dying, my family was dying, i ate too much and fell asleep Well guys I am heading out.... Cbreez, do you think you can handle these three guys by yoursel? i was a blast at parties most likely jack herer <--- is partial to elevator muzak... i'm outta here too i've had a blast boyz and girlz nite bj night guys Okay, later guys nite rush nite al xoxoxoxoxoxoxo Nite BJ... SMOOOOOCH! Beanie, Lance xoxoxox nite john boy *** Disconnected Session Close: Wed Apr 21 05:28:02 1999